Biking Across Kansas on my Q45

woodguy

Well-Known Member
My first big event on the Q45 was Biking Across Kansas. 650 bikes started, and I heard that about 80% finished Here is proof that I actually began at the Colorado State Line.Colorado.jpg

The week was hot - reached 100 degrees every day according to my Wahoo bike computer. The wind was never ending, and it seemed like a headwind every day. And there are a surprising number of hard hills to climb. On the most difficult day for me we climbed 2,000' and descended 2,800', but the hills were steep and that took it out of me even though I could rest on the downhills. Later in the week there were days with more uphill than down, but the roads had less steep inclines and I handled that much better.

My solution to the heat became leaving earlier. One day I even departed about an hour before dawn. There were plenty of other bikes out, but I just didn't like riding in the dark, so my default became leaving just as light was arriving. I also was very attentive to constant hydration, and taking advantage of every SAG stop. This seemed like a good solution for me because I biked every one of the 595 miles for the week.

The event is well organized, with high schools to stay in all week, plenty of food opportunities, and lots of support from the small towns we passed through or stopped in. If it wouldn't have been so hot, I would have visited a lot more of the little museums and sights along the way. My main goal became to get all the way without getting heat stroke

The Q45 performed well. I only threw the chain one time as I was coming into a little town and downshifting. I was a little concerned whether the 1 x 11 gearing would work for me on this ride, and I am happy to report that I don't plan to make any changes to it. Adding a front derailleur would get me heavier and I don't think I need the extra gears. I wasn't the fastest bike out there, but I passed more than passed me. There are a couple of things I plan to do to the bike before the next adventure: I left the standard 26" x 1.75" tires on for this ride, and I think a thinner road tire would cause less drag. I also want to try reclining the seat more. I did get some recumbutt pain, and I remember reading that the more reclined you are, the less that will occur.

I had the only Cruzbike on the ride, and it got a lot of interest. Don't know if it will result in any sales, but I talked to a lot of people about it. Everyone likes the way it looks, but most are scared of the front wheel drive. I told them that if I could learn it, anyone could. You just have to follow the steps to learning it.

And here is proof that I actually made it all the way.
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ak-tux

Zen MBB Master
Congratulations! And yes, a reclined position reduces recumbent butt problem but also allowing your body time to adopt to the position is also important.

I personally also think the recumbent butt is also affected/cuased by the shape of the seat curve at the lowest point and by the position of the bottom bracket relative to the lowest part of the seat.
There is a sweet spot at which the gluteus are under the least amount of pressure.

You have to experiment, but with each change allow some time for adaptation before you tweak again.
 
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Rods

Member
Hi. I enjoyed visiting with you on BAK.
Nice looking bike. I looked for you evenings for a closer look, but never found you.
Hope you come back next year.
Rod
 

woodguy

Well-Known Member
Congratulations! And yes, a reclined position reduces recumbent butt problem but also allowing your body time to adopt to the position is also important.

I personally also think the recumbent but is also affected/cuased by the shape of the seat curve at the lowest point and by the position of the bottom bracket relative to the lowest part of the seat.
There is a sweat spot at which the gluteus are under the least amount of pressure.

You have to experiment, but with each change allow some time for adaptation before you tweak again.
Ak-tux, Yes I remember seeing the post of yours showing how you designed & built your own wooden seat with custom curves. Think I might try to copy that idea. Being a woodguy I have access to lots of material. Do you have a recommendation on the position of the bottom bracket relative to the seat?
 

woodguy

Well-Known Member
Hi. I enjoyed visiting with you on BAK.
Nice looking bike. I looked for you evenings for a closer look, but never found you.
Hope you come back next year.
Rod
Hi Rods - I remember visiting with you. Sorry we didn't connect in the evenings. Depending on where you live, Cruzbike can set up a test ride for you with a local owner, or if you want to make a trip to Wisconsin I'd be happy to show you mine. I was outside with Bubba's Pampered Pedalers tenting group. Might not make it to BAK next year. Seriously thinking of Bubba's Coast to Coast tour.
 

ak-tux

Zen MBB Master
Ak-tux, Yes I remember seeing the post of yours showing how you designed & built your own wooden seat with custom curves. Think I might try to copy that idea. Being a woodguy I have access to lots of material. Do you have a recommendation on the position of the bottom bracket relative to the seat?

I think it depends on each individual because our heights are all different relative to the bicycle. I don't have statistics but for me a lower bottom bracket puts less pressure as long as the seat curve at the bottom is not pointing too sharply upwards. However when I reclined my seat lower I felt that my feet also needed to come up a bit higher. A bottom bracket that is too low opens the heap angle too wide if the seat is too reclined. It's a balancing act, One has to experiment. The Lower the seat recline, the higher the bottom bracket has to come. My DIY seat is reclined at 33deg and my BB is about 8cm above the lowest point of the seat. Probably 10cm or would have been better but I have adapted to it.
 

CycleGuy8

New Member
A belated congratulations on your ride. I did the BAK in 2005 and it was an incredible experience that included many firsts and some great life lessons. It was my first long-distance tour and also my introduction to recumbents which led me to purchase a Volae Sport later that year. I also learned that long distance riders are eternal optimists. What a great group of people to ride with! The two eldest riders were an 81 year old man and 82 year old woman which was also great inspiration and life lesson. Smile and keep on riding! Best wishes!
 

woodguy

Well-Known Member
Thanks Cycleguy8! BAK is a great memory & your post brought it back to the top of my mind. Since then I have expanded my touring. Check out my post “Q45 Across America”, which I completed this spring. It was even more fun than BAK. 2,800 miles & millions of memories. And speaking about age - average for the cross country trip was 65 yr old.
 
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