New stem and seat recline

Trevski

Active Member
Having shortened my TFT to try and alleviate some knee pain I was experiencing on longer rides, I found that I had knee clearance problems. The usual fix is to move the seat forward, but I'm already at 55% weight on the front wheel, and don't want to increase that. My solution was to fit a longer, more angled stem.

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Old versus new

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New stem

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Knee clearance

Since the handle bar is now approx 40mm higher, my initial impression was that my forward vision was obstructed. However, after about 10 minutes riding I became used to the new handle bar position and no longer notice it.

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Trev's eye view

Another reason the bars are higher in my field of vision is that I have my seat reclined about 10 degrees further than the Sofrider shown in the catalogue. There are three possible seat back bracket configurations. The Sofrider in the catalogue has the bracket in the most upright configuration, I have mine with the two plates each side that clamp the wire rails turned 180 degrees, so the tightening bolt is between the rails and the seat instead of behind the rails.

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This gives me a seat back angle of approx 38 degrees, instead of approx 48 degrees as shown for the original. I arrived at those figures by using the highly scientific method of drawing a line along the seat back in MSPaint, and taking note of the vertical and horizontal pixel counts to arrive at the tangent of the angle :geek:

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Stock Sofrider

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Highly modified racing Sofrider

It's possible to recline the seat even further by turning the bracket itself around, so the bolt is behind the seat post. I tried it in that configuration, and set my fastest time ever on my 20km ride to Port Kennedy and back....but my neck hated me for the next 3 days....

Finally, I found that having graduated to Lycra bike pants, I was sliding forward on the seat pan. I've always felt the pan needed more upward tilt at the front, so this was achieved by keeping the pan in the same position to preserve my seat back tilt, and moving the seat bracket back one hole on the frame. Of course, this meant drilling new holes for the bracket to mount. As can be seen, the forward edge of the bracket is now level with the front holes originally provided - there's a bit of daylight visible through one of them.

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New seat pan mount hole positions.

And the legal bit. None of the mods shown here were suggested, tested or endorsed by Cruzbike. If my stem breaks or seat cracks and I come a cropper, it'll be my own fault. If you copy what I've done and you crash and burn, it's your fault!!

Cheers,
Trev
 

Doug Burton

Zen MBB Master
Hi Trev,

The bike looks great. Looking forward to more ride reports.

I'm a little concerned about the fact that the post clamp isn't completely seated on the seat post (judging by the picture that shows the clamping section of the clamp at an agle to the post.)

Shouldn't be a problem if it's completely tight, but you can achieve the same angle by rotating the entire clamp 180 degrees, so that the "clamping axle" is to the rear of the bike, and then raising the post a little. This would allow you to completely engage the clamp at that seat angle.

This photo of a kit bike has the clamp arranged this way:

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I've been considering making the seat pan mod you made as an experiment myself.

Nicely done.

Best,

Doug
 

Trevski

Active Member
Hi Doug,

Yes, the seat bracket isn't fully seated in the photo, and is now fixed. While quite tight and rigid, it's obviously not the way it should be. It was a result of rushing to reassemble the bike after removing a seat post mount pannier rack I bought, that I can't use because it only allows me about 40mm clearance above the tyre...
I always do my own spanner swinging, and not just on bikes, because I've been presented with dodgy workmanship too many times. And now I'm guilty too :oops:
On the plus side, seating the bracket properly will have given me even more recline - maybe even another whole degree!

Cheers,
Trev
 

jm_weaver

New Member
Seat back angle

I have tried this seat-clamp flip as well. It works fine, but there is another solution for Sofrider VII owners. The rear suspension mount has three holes to choose from, and the lowest hole will gain you about 8 degrees of reclination. Of course this means that the steering angle is also laid back to around 62 degrees. Personally I find the shallower head angle easier to ride at both low and high speed, keeping in mind that I have owned my Sofrider for a short time and am still discovering the limits to this design.
 
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