pls. recommend shock w/lockout for Q45

[burando]

Am feeling that too much pedal power is going into pogo-ing the shock when climbing steep grades.
Have tried a variety of stiffness settings and pedaling techniques.

Also not all that impressed with how it lets the rear wheel lift off when rolling fast over rough pavement.

Who has an alternative they like?

 

[billyk]

Have you tried the Kind air shock? Many strong endorsements on this forum (including mine, both for Q2 and Q45).

Search the forums for "Kind Shock RR1-A5" for many detailed descriptions. For the Q45, you want 165mm.

This is a drastically improved ride: stiffer, better handling, better response to bumps. Much less pogo. Also not too expensive ($75?).

No lockout, but it is quite adjustable (you also need a shock pump, about $25).

I'm dubious about a lockout because it will stress the frame at one point repeatedly.

 

[benphyr]

I'm dubious about a lockout because it will stress the frame at one point repeatedly.

@billyk Lockouts are used on dual suspension mountain bikes all the time and the Q45 frame seems similar in structure so I doubt that a lockout would unduly stress the frame of a Q45 - my guess not based on testing. (I say this because I imagine that since the stock shock seems to eventually seize or stop working well anyway which would be similar in stresses?)

My biggest concern would be about operating the lockout while riding. It is quite close to the rear wheel and the motion of the shock is not protected either should you hit a large bump while locking/unlocking the shock. -Potential for hurt.

One could simulate a locked out shock by replacing the shock with a similar length aluminum bar stock with appropriate spacers or washers if you just want to try it out that way. Or put a clamp tightly around a shock at full extension (one that you don't care about).

 

[burando]

Update: I put on DNM's new AOY-38RC air shock. Same price as the Kind RR1-A5. Does a lovely job, and has a lockout which has been great for aggressive climbing with heavy baggage loads. Easy to operate/adjust while riding -- the rebound dial & lockout lever are at the top of the shock, which always has good hand clearance. The only issue is that the Q45's skewed mount points will reduce any shock's mechanical advantage, so you have a choice between higher shock pressure or reduced piston travel. I split the difference and let the bike sit lower (under load). Might even be getting a little aero advantage there.