recumbent classifications

[John Tolhurst]

Here an email thread with Bryan Ball, of bentrideronline:

Bryan,
Its actually not FWD but MBB that is the key difference.

Its all about crank-front wheel interference, thats what defines SWB and LWB and that same aspect defines MBB where there is no such interference.

Twisting chain FWD still has crank wheel interference to manage, that is why SWB is entirely appropriate, so what twisting chain FWD makers prefer sheds no light on how to classify MBB.

John Tolhurst

Design Director
CRUZBIKE Inc Front Wheel Drive
http://www.cruzbike.com


Bryan Ball <bryan@bentrideronline.com>
Sent by: Bryan Ball <bentrideronline@gmail.com>
30/03/2010 08:58 PM
To
"tolhurst@west.com.au" <tolhurst@west.com.au>
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Subject
Re: A little help... (Buyer's Guide Beta Testing)

Quads have their own because they don't fit into anything else. Every
other FWD manufacturer doesn't like to be treated differently. I think
Cruzbike is the only one that would like to be in a separate category.

Bryan J. Ball
Managing Editor
'BentRider Online
http://www.bentrideronline.com
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 30, 2010, at 3:45 AM, tolhurst@west.com.au wrote:

> Hello Bryan,
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> do you think we need a category for FWD - they are certainly more
> prevalent than Quads?
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> Cheers,
> John
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> "bryan@bentrideronline.com" <bryan@bentrideronline.com>
> 30/03/2010 05:55 AM
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> To
> info@cruzbike.com
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> Subject
> A little help... (Buyer's Guide Beta Testing)
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> As you may have seen, we're working on an all new Buyer's Guide. It's
> coolest feature is that YOU will be able to post reviews! It won't
> go live
> until the first but it's up and working now with only a couple of
> categories filled in. I'm only sending this email to some of our more
> prolific board users and I'm asking that you try and review a couple
> of
> bikes and trikes you've owned just to see how it works and email me
> if you
> have any problems.
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> All you need to do is use your message board login if it asks for one.
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> NOTE - I REALIZE THE DATABASE IS NOT FULL!!!!
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> url is...
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[Mark B]

John Tolhurst wrote: Its actually not FWD but MBB that is the key difference.

Its all about crank-front wheel interference, thats what defines SWB and LWB and that same aspect defines MBB where there is no such interference.

Twisting chain FWD still has crank wheel interference to manage, that is why SWB is entirely appropriate, so what twisting chain FWD makers prefer sheds no light on how to classify MBB.

Makes sense to me.

You can't pigeonhole any of the Cruzbikes with the current acceptable titles. The Silvio certainly isn't a high racer, even though it runs on big wheels. It's pretty much standard bicycle wheel base, so SWB doesn't fit at all.

Mark

 

[John Tolhurst]

I honestly think it would not be good for your exposure to put
cruzbike essentially in it's own category. Those that discount mbb
won't look there. I'd they're in with other swb's people will see them.

says Bryan.
That is a good point ...

 

[currystomper]

John Tolhurst wrote: I honestly think it would not be good for your exposure to put
cruzbike essentially in it's own category. Those that discount mbb
won't look there. I'd they're in with other swb's people will see them.

says Bryan.
That is a good point ...

I think I agree - changing minds from the inside is easier than from the outside. The length of the wheel base of a Cruz is the same as a "SWB" so lets go along with this. maybe we don't see this as the main point but the more inclusive we are then the more people we may see riding cruzbikes...