V2 vs V20 - what are the differences?
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jond
Zen MBB Master
Hydro formed frame is same.
Boom assembly changed. The v20 is far more adjustable and has a smaller diameter anodised tube with handy set marks. It’s a little lighter and more aero. Also the quality of the finish graphics and paint went up a couple of notches. Quality as good as any large manufacturer. New graphic package. Forks were now painted.
the V2 boom assembly is oversized unpainted aluminium tube with a clunky limited to adjust bar reach . It has one killer graphic. IMHO. The forks are shiny and boom can be polished. I’m a regular big boom polisher.
from V2.2 a new to it carbon fibre seat was included.
the v20 has improved incrementally too .
it is the better bike.
and the search bar is your friend . All changes have been well documented. Start your search.
The bikes are both super fast. For me my V2 was faster than my v20. I put that down to fossilisation.
All bikes made by cruzbike enjoy a level of great factory support I’ve not seen before.
Boom assembly changed. The v20 is far more adjustable and has a smaller diameter anodised tube with handy set marks. It’s a little lighter and more aero. Also the quality of the finish graphics and paint went up a couple of notches. Quality as good as any large manufacturer. New graphic package. Forks were now painted.
the V2 boom assembly is oversized unpainted aluminium tube with a clunky limited to adjust bar reach . It has one killer graphic. IMHO. The forks are shiny and boom can be polished. I’m a regular big boom polisher.
from V2.2 a new to it carbon fibre seat was included.
the v20 has improved incrementally too .
it is the better bike.
and the search bar is your friend . All changes have been well documented. Start your search.
The bikes are both super fast. For me my V2 was faster than my v20. I put that down to fossilisation.
All bikes made by cruzbike enjoy a level of great factory support I’ve not seen before.
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Lief
Guru Schmuru
Not an expert on this like @ratz or @Robert Holler but I think the weight savings came from the boom changes and seat.
The aero improvements I think came from slightly longer wheelbase and slightly more reclined seat angle - closer to 20º IIRC.
I didn't search either <grin> but there were some changes made to the derailer hangers, maybe the fork widths to accomodate disc brakes, brake mounting options....lots of the little things that we all wished were better in the Vendetta 2.
jond
Zen MBB Master
Ha ha lief ye old yella peril.
V2.2 on exact same carbon fibre seat as v20. V20 and V2 iso post mounts disc brake and same caliper mount options. Wheelbase change and seat angle change I did not think that happened from V2 on. I thought the current v20 is same mould as V2 hydro formed frame. I could be wrong. The v1 1.5 to 2 had geometry change etc.
A few have fitted new boom to old V2. Eg David.
Seating tabs and Perez clamp were improved changed.
I can feel that search button calling. Ok Paruig you’re welcome and enjoy your search.
Factory just keeps on delivering improvement.
V2.2 on exact same carbon fibre seat as v20. V20 and V2 iso post mounts disc brake and same caliper mount options. Wheelbase change and seat angle change I did not think that happened from V2 on. I thought the current v20 is same mould as V2 hydro formed frame. I could be wrong. The v1 1.5 to 2 had geometry change etc.
A few have fitted new boom to old V2. Eg David.
Seating tabs and Perez clamp were improved changed.
I can feel that search button calling. Ok Paruig you’re welcome and enjoy your search.
Factory just keeps on delivering improvement.
DavidCH
In thought; expanding the paradigm of traversity
It's weird but I confirm that too. I have not however done like for like. I had shimano 165 cranks on with a rotor 54t oval chainring that looked more like a log splitter. However, my knees ached for days after riding. A lot of my PBs were set when I was at race weight 72kg... I have never been back at that weight so...
The front forks on the v20 are slightly wider so they can take a 135mm hub for disc braking.
jond
Zen MBB Master
rick Youngblood put disc brakes on his V2 Anyhow we all agree v20 is a better bike.
Mostly want to raise my bb alittle with a longer chainstay and considering modernizing
DavidCH
In thought; expanding the paradigm of traversity
It can be done... is it worth it?
It makes the bike more multi configurable. The old V2 ... you had to become quite ingenious to max the aero configuration. The great thing about the old v2. Was its chrome boom and decals. You could also hide the cables better.
To give respect to my bike... when I finish my riding days... she will be restored into her glory and hung on the wall. Fabulous bike. Brilliantly engineered. Gives you the ride of your life every time.
It makes the bike more multi configurable. The old V2 ... you had to become quite ingenious to max the aero configuration. The great thing about the old v2. Was its chrome boom and decals. You could also hide the cables better.
To give respect to my bike... when I finish my riding days... she will be restored into her glory and hung on the wall. Fabulous bike. Brilliantly engineered. Gives you the ride of your life every time.
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chicorider
Zen MBB Master
I also put the current V20 front end on my V2 some years ago. It made the bike much more adjustable, which, for a short guy like me, made all the difference. If you're thinking of buying a new V20, I'd wait until the next iteration, which I'm guessing will follow the Q45 and S40 with the addition of thru axles and flat-mount disc brake tabs--the first semi-significant design change (in my opinion) since the first red V20 came out.
Now how do I get a v20 front end and I suppose I need the new fork.
chicorider
Zen MBB Master
jond
Zen MBB Master
no you don’t need new fork. See pics. Contact cruzbike and also robert holler. They may have an old V2 chainstay around as a first option. Otherwise do as @chicorider indicates. Bike looks fantastic by the way.
I can tell you the large chainstay of the V2 in comparison to the large chainstay of the v20 puts the respective booms at slightly different angles because of the bigger radius/and pipe size of V2. I.E the boom on V2 is almost horizontal.
jond
Zen MBB Master
david that looks like large chainstay in pic. Did you run original boom with large chainstay too.
billyk
Guru
Ignorant question from a guy with 10s of k miles on Qs but who's never ridden a V anything:
Does the horizontal boom sticking a foot or so back into the rider's lap mean it steers like a tiller? Namely is the steering motion side to side or is it a rotating motion like a DF or my Q?
And if tiller, doesn't the feel of the steering depend a whole lot on how far the boom extends behind the steering axis?
jond
Zen MBB Master
hi billy.
Here is my impression. Yes it does stick in your lap the more horizontal the boom. That can be awkward if you have a belly. It also makes sitting up harder and getting in rather than on bike. But it’s safe and you can comfortably sit up on back of oem seat. Some stomachs and unique proportioned bodies require the curved slider.
I ride a sofrider v 3 as well as vendetta. I have two rwd tiller steerer bikes as well.
steering is side to side on vendetta as pivot point is directly parallel to handlebar. In my particular case almost horizontally parallel.
With this set up I can use my upper body far more effectively than compared to sofrider. On sofrider bars are like q raised vertically above pivot point and stem length dictates any leverage advantage. Or maybe not. Chime in please.
yes I reckon someone with short torso and monkey length swinging arms would have a lot less leverage to work with as bars would be closer to headset pivot point. So yes length of the steerer does impact the feel of the bike.
when switching to genuine tiller bikes I take a few hundred metres to stop inputting my arms. I’m all over the place.
the sofrider and it’s descendants are super comfy relaxing bikes. I feel like an easy rider on the sofrider. On the vendetta well it’s like getting dressed for a rocket trip with some Expectations. Lol.
