Bikeism & Everesting

[RojoRacing]

Years ago based on a friendly challenge I climbed 30,000' in like 15hrs on my DF back before I had ever even knew such a thing as Everesting was a thing. So after this past weekends 10,000' ride I was thinking if anyone had ever "Everested" on a CruzBike?

So I looked up the "official" rules and even thought a few of them seem a little odd one stands out as ridiculous. Yes you guessed it, no recumbents or electric bikes. Yes, recumbents have been paired up along side electric bikes as none eligible for "official" Everesting.

As much as I'd love to crush their Everesting record on the Vendetta and run thier face in it. I know that's just not going to happen on a bike that's most likely close to 10lbs heavier then the feather weight climbing DF bikes used in the challenge.

Anyone want to be the voice of reason and ask them why they feel a recumbent isn't qualified for the challenge? I feel I'm just not kind enough to word such a request in such a way that won't cause a defense reaction.

http://www.everesting.cc

 

[ratz]

Because even if you were last to the top; you'd be first to the bottom; and many recumbent riders could drink the entire supply of malt beverages while they wait for everyone else to get to the bottom.


Seems silly to exclude the heavy bikes from the challenge. Someone had a dull axe in need of grinding probably.

 

[trplay]

Looking at the entire web site it looks like the recumbent ban in that one spot is just a mistake. Under their rules page in the bikes section they have a recumbent category.

 

[RojoRacing]

I'll have to look again in more detail and not on my damn phone this time. Could be something to try in the upcoming weeks.

 

[jond]

hmm i had an email telling me no recumbents trike or bike were permitted for reasons not given about 2 years ago. i protested that bents are heavier to no avail. one of my cycling mates is jono e and he is up or at the pointy end of the everesting hells 500 list with some epic climbs. i will have another look moose at the website. perhaps they have seen that discrimination is unedifying and stupid.

 

[RojoRacing]

It appears there's two classifications of badassery.

1st is Everesting at 8,848 Meters
2nd is the High Rouleur's Society at 10,000 meters.

The Everesting rules state no recumbents and no E-bikes but the HRS states recumbents as ok and only E-bikes as not.

With that said I'll just skip Everesting and go strait for the HRS. Now we just need a creative title for the ride that pokes fun at the Everesting rules while still stating the HRS challenge.

 

[trplay]

LOL go get'em Rojo. I'm in for a little creative fun.

 

[RojoRacing]

I'll post up here when I do the ride then we can come up with a snappy ride title.

 

[ratz]

a recumbent that can everest is like spotting a yeti, only the faithful believe.

 

[LMT]

It can be done, for sure.

I don't get the whole weight thing, yes of course a lighter bike will be slower going up a hill but plugging the figures into a power calculator, the difference when pushing 300 watts on an upright weighing 17lbs, and a recumbent weighing 23lbs is 0.3mph.

This is nothing to shout about, good training and adaption needed and anyone, imo can Everest.

Good luck with the 10k Jason.

 

[RojoRacing]

Potential title name

"Recumbents aren't eleible for Everesting so strait up High Rouleur's Society on the CruzBike Vendetta it is"

 

[RojoRacing]

It can be done, for sure.

I don't get the whole weight thing, yes of course a lighter bike will be slower going up a hill but plugging the figures into a power calculator, the difference when pushing 300 watts on an upright weighing 17lbs, and a recumbent weighing 23lbs is 0.3mph.

This is nothing to shout about, good training and adaption needed and anyone, imo can Everest.

Good luck with the 10k Jason.

Oh trust me, I've done a ton of climbing on both bike in the last 6 months and it's a much bigger difference then 0.3mph. My V comes in at 26lbs compared to my 17lb Ridley Noah and the difference climbing 7-10% grades is like 10-15%. An even bigger issue then the weight is not being able to stand up and use different muscles as well as wide your gear range. Those two things really start to stack up when your going for over 12hrs.

In all honesty the hardest part of the Everesting challenge I'll face is the last 200 yards to the summit of Mt. Diablo. Under the rules you can't walk and have to ride every part but last weekend I was barely able to clean the 18% 200 yards kicker at the end on my second accent. That last part is child's play on my other bike which runs much taller gearing.

 

[SamP]

Might want to change your chainrings or even your cassette for this.

 

[RojoRacing]

Might want to change your chainrings or even your cassette for this.

Thanks for the suggestion because as I was about to respond with I'm already running a compact crank and the largest cassette sram makes I realized it's a X9 mtb derailleur on the rear so I can get a pg-1070 in 11-36. So I ordered that 11-36 and it should arrive Thursday. If the cassette shows up Thursday then maybe I'll play hooky on Friday and try for High Rouleur's Society. I'd love to try on the weekend and not skip work but there are so many cars you have to actively block by crowding the center line so they won't be tempted to pass you in a blind corner and collecting some poor rider coming down. The lack of common sense can make it so much more work on the weekends.

 

[jond]

With that said I'll just skip Everesting and go strait for the HRS. Now we just need a creative title for the ride that pokes fun at the Everesting rules while still stating the HRS challenge.

woo hoo tough work. brilliant jason. looking forward to that. jason maybe a slightly less steep hill might help over a longer time frame. speed balance distance equation favours a flatter hill for the speedy v. balance at low speed can become tricky on pinch points. but yes ratz we believe. you will do it jason.

for a ride title..............

okay how about " why ever Everest when you can high roll with Vendetta."

best wishes and we will be rooting for you. stay safe. no pressure.

 

[RojoRacing]

I just remembered I've only got 12hrs to complete this challenge this time of year because the road is only open from sunrise to sunset. I'll probably have to wait till June July to attempt this on mt. Diablo, unfortunately it'll be crazy hot then.

We also have the infamous Sierra rd climb that only 3.5 miles vs 11 on mt. D, t's also 40% steeper at an avg 9%. Sierra rd is also the last super hard climb at 150 miles into my first double century attempt on the V next month.

I'll probably get the 36tooth installed and do a few repeats here and there in preparation for that double century. It'll also serve and a good opportunity to judge the time for each lap and total time needed to complete 30,000'.

 

[LarryOz]

Potential title name

"Recumbents aren't eleible for Everesting so strait up High Rouleur's Society on the CruzBike Vendetta it is"

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HRS alternate meaning - "Highclimbing Recumbent society", yeah I know it should it be HCRS