Donour bike - old lady steel frame

freddd

New Member
Hello,
Can an old lady steel bike such as the one on the picture be converted as low / medium racer even if it is not a Y frame as such? The headset shall be 1 inch and the wheels are 26. Would be my first attempt to convert a bike. Would be nice to ensure a second life at least as a recumbent commuter...
Thanks very much in advance for your clues!
Freddd / Switzerland
 

Manalive

Member
Lowracer? No. Medium racer? Sort of... Closer to a high racer, really.

I put the conversion onto a frame very similar to that one, envisaging it as a stepping stone to something far lower. I was trying to get the seat as low as possible on that type of frame, and that meant moving it as far backwards as possible. Results:
  • Moving the seat backwards brings the bottom bracket up: good for aero, giving a more 'racer' position!
  • Reclining the seat far back then means your hands are a bit far from the handlebars, unless your handlebar grips move aft of the steerer tube. I found that this felt less stable.
It's not the prettiest recumbent. However, it was a great 'taster' in moving-bottom-bracket FWD, it was easy to learn on, it was stable, it pulled well up hills, it was surprisingly capable on rough surfaces, and it was a cheap way to find out that what I really wanted was a recumbent mountain bike!

I think you'd struggle to find a Y-frame mountain bike that would give you a lower seat than your lady's frame. However, the V2/K frame will put the seat lower still. Ultimately, if you want to go low with a Cruzbike, you'll just have to either make your own frame (which some have done!) or buy a Vendetta. BUT: have you ridden low-racer recumbents before? Yes, you get a benefit in top-end speed, but as motorbike designers will tell you, the handling/control is actually better when your weight is higher up, especially on loose surfaces. Also, you're more noticeable to cars...

I did find that, with the steep top tube of the lady's frame, even with the seat base tilted as far forwards as possible, the front edge of the seat dug into the thighs a little on long rides. On the V2/K frame, I find I have the seat base tilted as far BACK as possible, and it's just right! However, your top tube looks a little shallower than mine was.

The lady's-bike conversion:
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/novelappraoch/NOIAmNOTCold#5469285066209639282
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/novelappraoch/NOIAmNOTCold#5469284468330128130
http://www.cruzbike.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1581&p=10165

And the new version, in 'London commuter' mode (for the next three weeks!)
http://www.cruzbike.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2520&start=10
I don't know how fast you want to go, but NOBODY has overtaken me on that bike yet! (but I only have a 10/15-minute cycle to work: I can practically sprint all the way)

Hope that helps?

Alex[/]
 

Manalive

Member
Just had a second look at your photo. If you do put a conversion on that bike (and I reccommend it as a first step!), you'll need to change the front brakes: those particular cantilever brakes won't work when you reverse the fork.

Also, you'll need a quill-to-ahead stem adaptor and an ahead-type handlebar stem.

You shouldn't have to move the basket!
 

freddd

New Member
Alex,
Thanks so much for all this information. Will check and make a budget. If the panier can stay then it will be the fastest shopper in town! Thanks again!
Freddd
 
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