How do I tell which model of the Silvio I have?

GeneG

New Member
Hey all - I've owned a Silvio for a while now but haven't dove into the community at all. I'm considering selling the bike and now I'd like to know a thing or two about it.

I know its a Silvio becuase it pretty blatantly says it across the frame, but I can't figure out if its a 1.0, 2.0, or S30, or any other type of Silvio....Is there a way to tell based on the model number or distinguishing features?

Can't seem to find an answer to this question anywhere so I'm posting a new thread. Thanks for the assistance!

G
 

GeneG

New Member
Ok sorry I was able to find a few things posted below, but I am still not certain.

This was originally posted by benphyr:

"here were a several iterations of the S30. Technically the Silvio and S30 versions could be taken apart and packed into airline luggage (barely). Here are the differences that I can think of:

Silvio 1: (the original performance Cruzbike)
-welded frame
-straight road components
-straight front triangle
-dual suspension

Silvio is the first Performance Cruzbike: Splits into Silvio as Road/touring machine and Vendetta as Race specific

Silvio 2 & 2.1:
-hydroformed frame
-curved front boom
-evolved into S30

In between somewhere people started occasionally calling some of them Silvio 3, or often called Silvio S30 in error - see @Robert Holler 's message several posts below machines that still had the same Silvio 2 features:
-27 degree seat angle
-dual suspension (air head-shock thing and rear elastomer) - some swear it was great, some say gimmicky, some say never really worked - probably depends on the person, setup, type of roads you ride, etc.

S30 (has suspension/geometry changes):
-only sold for a short while
-basically same as original except no front shock, 33 degree seat angle, and different head angle
-slightly different paint scheme
-some say short wheel base good for maneuverability, some found head position hard on balance and short wheel base a little harsher

S40.1:
-no active suspension
-larger tire clearance and larger tires came stock
-rear triangle is welded frame triangle similar to "regular" bike
-wheel base lengthened significantly - improves stability (think loaded touring and straight line no hands)
-adds many attachment points for racks, fenders, etc. that were not on S30

S40.2 (current):
-1x drivetrain
-even more tire clearance and larger tires - up to gravel bike sizes??

S40.3 (Next generation - Hoping for a near future unveiling)"

*****

And then this followup by Robert Holler:
"There was only ever ONE actual S30 production run. "Silvio S30" for the bike before the actual S30 was produced is nomenclature only - that was a "Silvio" production run that became in name "Silvio S30." The actual S30 had a solid front fork (and different head tube angle) and "S30" logo on the side, and a triangular hole in the rear gusset as opposed to the Silvio that has a round hole. If there are pics on the internets of one that have the "S30" paint on the side and a round hole in the gusset those are photoshop - the REAL S30 had a triangular hole."


SO, given that my bike has a circular whole in the rear gusset but does not have any suspension...not sure what that means :|
 

GeneG

New Member
Heres a pic. BTW this bike is FOR SALE. Asking $1900 and willing to ship. I'll post it in the appropriate section later on.

So, is this a 1.0, 2.0? S30? Thanks for your help !
 

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DocS

Guru
Good morning :)
Your bike looks to have "dual suspension (air head-shock thing and rear elastomer)", so based on the definition, It is a Silvio S30?

I'm sure others will chime in here :)

Blessings,
DocS
 
I believe it is a Silvio 2.x. Dual suspension. The dual suspension and rear circle gives it away.

The front shock looks flat. The front shock is an air shock. As previously mentioned, the rear shock is an elastomer shock. The S30 only has rear suspension.

Robert Holler is the authority since he works for Cruzbike. Robert states that the S30 had a rear triangular hole. The picture posted shows a circular hole. No front suspension on a S30.

I am sure Robert will come along and validate the bike you have.
 

Robert Holler

Administrator
Staff member
SO, given that my bike has a circular whole in the rear gusset but does not have any suspension...not sure what that means :|

It is likely that someone upgraded the front end to a non suspended fork and non suspension front chainstay.

The round hole was original Silvio - that was only ever produced with a suspension fork. Some folks did upgrade those though over the years.

Robert

Edit:

Looking at the pic you posted it has a suspension fork - just flat or possibly dead. FWIW we have a lot of replacement suspension forks for that bike - they will not work on other Cruzbikes though (please nobody ask me :)) They are cut specifically for those Silvios that has suspension originally.
 
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