Let the V20 build begin

LarryOz

Cruzeum Curator & Sigma Wrangler
My V20 - Front End color change

I just picked up the four pieces:
Boom, slider, fork, chainstay from the powder-coater.
They look very nice.
A word of warning - The boom and slider are annodized, which means you can't strip them and polish them the way you possibly could the folk and chainstay. That is what I was originally going to try and do.
Ended up justy powder-coating them silver-chrome. It is not a mirror like image, but very nice still the same.
Can't wait to start putting it together - probabaly will not happen unitl after Christmas - too much other stuff gong on!
 

Andrew 1973

Zen MBB Master
LOOKS HOT!

You definitely went with the right choice on the powdercoat. It nearly emulates the reflectiveness of chrome without the mess of tyring to strip the anodizing, sanding and polishing...

I have stripped anodized parts and polished them, but it is a nasty, caustic, dangerous, pain in the arse task that I wouldn't willingly do again.

Your V20 is going to be the envy of many!
 

Rick Youngblood

CarbonCraft Master
Super Larry! It's going to

Super Larry! It's going to pop, can't wait to see the finished bike.

Because the boom now is a slightly larger diameter than before (I'm assuming)? How tight is it when sliding into the slider?
 

LarryOz

Cruzeum Curator & Sigma Wrangler
Chased and faced the drop out on the V20 today

I took it to my LBS today and watched (and helped actually).
It was an interesting process to be involved in.
The owner of the bike shop was soooooo very interested in the Vendetta that I finally had to go and bring the rest of the frame into the shop so he could see it. Everyone had to come and "touch" it. Kind of funny. They want me to bring it in when I have it done!
Anyway, I would highly recommend "facing and chasing" no matter if you get the part re-painted or not.
The threads really need to be cleaned out well and this does the trick.
The planes of the 2 faces also need to be perfectly aligned - If they aren't you will have binding between the crank spindle and the bearings = the cranks take more effort to spin. I had this problem on my first Silvio I bought.
The LBS who built my first Silvio did not face the drop-outs and you could definitely tell it once you tightened up the bearings.
Still waiting for a few more parts to come in - but alas - going to the in-laws for Christmas and there is "no room in the car" for all of these bike parts. So, will have to wait until next week to start in earnest.
 

Rick Youngblood

CarbonCraft Master
Gonnabee a long week, Im Just

Gonnabee a long week, Im Just Thinkin!

Hmm, I never had mine faced and chased. I wonder what John T. says about that. It's seems so controversial, some folks say you should and some folks say it's not necessary with the newer style BB's!

Looking forward to the reveal!
 

ReklinedRider

Zen MBB Master
Facing and chasing

easy (but expensive) solution for the facing part: SABB (self aligning bottom bracket) from Rotor.

Kline
 

super slim

Zen MBB Master
What is the colour code for

What is the colour code for the Silvio S30?
Is it powder coated?

How can the S30 fork be powder coated without damaging the air bag suspension?


 

Andrew 1973

Zen MBB Master
@ Super Slim

"How can the S30 fork be powder coated without damaging the air bag suspension?"
You can't. At least not without some special know-how and tooling that Kind Shock isn't willing to share. I had my fork powdercoated and ended up causing the air suspension to leak. I took it apart as far as I could and even had bike mechanics look at it; there was no obvious way to completely disassemble the fork.
 

super slim

Zen MBB Master
Dear Knuckles McGee,
 Are the


Dear Knuckles McGee,
Are the factory painted BLACK S30 forks powder coated? and if so, the factory must have some way of protecting the air bellows????
OR are they painted black (Any colour as long as it is Black!) at the Kind fork factory?
 

Andrew 1973

Zen MBB Master
Forks Part 2

@ Super Slim:

Sorry, but I have no knowledge about how the forks are produced, all I know is that I wouldn't recommend placing it in a 400 degrees Fahrenheit curing oven. Bad things might happen.
 

LarryOz

Cruzeum Curator & Sigma Wrangler
Paint codes for V2.0, V20, S30

Thanks to Robert:

I am sure you saw - I posted the V20 paint code: YS-751
The Yellow V paint code was: YS 7909
The S30 is YS 792
 

Robert Holler

Administrator
Staff member
I have not built a V or S

I have not built a V or S where the BB needed to be faced - the anodized surfaces are very flat and the process does not add any gunk to the surfaces. If they end up painted however, then yes it is a good idea to face them to ensure nice even surfaces. Here in Portland the reputable shops that paint bike frames will do this as part of their finish process - as well as blocking out threads and chasing those out.



Robert

 

John Tolhurst

Zen MBB Master
The assembly of the fork

The assembly of the fork crown to the steerer is not reversible, the forks are painted before this happens.
 

ratz

Wielder of the Rubber Mallet
Torque spec for BB Clamp?

John,

While you swing through the forums (good to see you caught some "free" time btw) Is there a Torque spec for the BB Clamps? I'm suspect I over torqued one of our Silvios and caused the bearings to wear out in record short mileage. That or it was a darn cheap BB. I'm thinking torque because I know that as I tight them down the cranks spin less freely and I've been hyper diligent about making sure everything is square and straight.

 

BentAero

Well-Known Member
Bob wrote: "I'm thinking

Bob wrote: "I'm thinking torque because I know that as I tight them down the cranks spin less freely and I've been hyper diligent about making sure everything is square and straight."

Larry and I had the same experience with the bb on his Silvio. We would torque the bb properly and the cranks would spin perfectly. When tightening up the clamps (proper torque value unknown) the cranks would then have a distinct drag and would no longer spin freely. The only way to diminish this was to leave the clamps less than normal tight.


 
 

John Tolhurst

Zen MBB Master
Bob, 
Clamping the outer


Bob,
Clamping the outer bearing race the way I designed it is probably a bit naughty. Better to back off the torque if the crank spin is compromised, on a case by case basis.
 

Wannabe

Well-Known Member
My 2104

My 2014 Silvio 2.0 was put together by VITE bikes. Do ya'll think I need to have the BB Bearings checked?
 

BentAero

Well-Known Member
Just slip the chain off the

Just slip the chain off the chainrings and give the crank a spin. You'll be able to tell if it turns free or not.
 
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