John Tolhurst
Zen MBB Master
yeah yeah, thats em, thanks Hotdog! 
I figure they could go very nicely.
I figure they could go very nicely.
Planning Ahead
- Thread starter MrSteve
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Glad to helpjohntolhurst wrote: yeah yeah, thats em, thanks Hotdog!
As I've already got a set of the bags I'd be happy to try them out for fit and report back, all you have to do is send me a Silvio so I can test them... :lol: I may give them a go on my Sofrider V2 when it arrives, if they'll go on that OK then they'd probably also work on a Silvio.
Beyond "planning ahead" on storage capacity...what I'd really like to see would be a birdcaged Ti rear subframe with either an integrated seat or bolt on seat pan with limited adjustment or no adjustment, that still serves as a structural stressed member. Without the suspension (which I like) this compact frame has the potential to be built up very clean and lite. It looks like the carbon stays will easily allow up to almost a 32mm tire, which for a performance road bike is plenty of plushness for touring and commuting.
I have an innovative friend at RANS :lol: interested in trying the Silvio, so I might get it dialed in and send it his way for further analysis :idea:
I have an innovative friend at RANS :lol: interested in trying the Silvio, so I might get it dialed in and send it his way for further analysis :idea:
Mark B
Zen MBB Master
I look at my conversion frame and the sofrider and cannot help but think about this;
What if you dropped the beam down to the right level so you could eliminate the suspension; just weld it in solid? Sell that as a frameset like the Silvio so people with any kind of mountain bike could take their running gear and build them a really cool commuter, touring, urban assault machine. Sure it would be a hard tail, but so? I'm thinking it could be done pretty inexpensively.
Mark
What if you dropped the beam down to the right level so you could eliminate the suspension; just weld it in solid? Sell that as a frameset like the Silvio so people with any kind of mountain bike could take their running gear and build them a really cool commuter, touring, urban assault machine. Sure it would be a hard tail, but so? I'm thinking it could be done pretty inexpensively.
Mark
Re: Planning Ahead...disc brake tabs
Now I understand that the majority of prospective Silvio owners will be intending to use the bike primarily for fast fitness/training/group rides in generally good weather and, particularly if they're coming from a road bike background, they'll consider calliper brakes to be 'good enough'. There are potential benefits to using disc brakes even for them, however, because disc brakes are not subject to the rim heating and brake fade problems which can afflict calliper brakes bikes on long, twisty descents. For other types of riding disc brakes offer other advantages too, of course. Powerful, predictable and consistent braking regardless of the weather conditions (wet or dry) is a big deal for some cyclists, such as all-weather commuters (like me) and tourers. Disc brakes also make swapping between tough, wide tyred 26" and fast, skinny tyred 700c wheels quick and simple. And yes, 700c wheels with disc hubs are available, they're used on some cyclocross bikes (though the UCI has recently banned disc brakes from 'cross competition :roll and are becoming increasingly common on hybrids, 'city' bikes and flat bar road bikes.
I agree on this point, disc brake tabs would be a nice addition that would make for a more versatile bike without causing problems for those who don't want to use them. Lightweight cable-actuated disc brakes are readily available, include some designed for use with road bike brake levers (e.g. Avid BB7 Road), and they offer a lot of advantages over road calliper brakes.
Now I understand that the majority of prospective Silvio owners will be intending to use the bike primarily for fast fitness/training/group rides in generally good weather and, particularly if they're coming from a road bike background, they'll consider calliper brakes to be 'good enough'. There are potential benefits to using disc brakes even for them, however, because disc brakes are not subject to the rim heating and brake fade problems which can afflict calliper brakes bikes on long, twisty descents. For other types of riding disc brakes offer other advantages too, of course. Powerful, predictable and consistent braking regardless of the weather conditions (wet or dry) is a big deal for some cyclists, such as all-weather commuters (like me) and tourers. Disc brakes also make swapping between tough, wide tyred 26" and fast, skinny tyred 700c wheels quick and simple. And yes, 700c wheels with disc hubs are available, they're used on some cyclocross bikes (though the UCI has recently banned disc brakes from 'cross competition :roll
and are becoming increasingly common on hybrids, 'city' bikes and flat bar road bikes.
I don't yet own a Silvio, but I'd have thought proper rear suspension to match the front, would be a good upgrade and perhaps not to difficult(?)
Something like that shown on the link below would appear to be just right for the job.
http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/13/on-test-sirens-song-single-speed-29er/
Also, would it be possible to have the Softrider with the option of the same steering tube as the Silvio, I think it looks great, with better lines and is probably stronger too.
All the best.
Stuart.
Softrider V2
Something like that shown on the link below would appear to be just right for the job.
http://twentynineinches.com/2008/03/13/on-test-sirens-song-single-speed-29er/
Also, would it be possible to have the Softrider with the option of the same steering tube as the Silvio, I think it looks great, with better lines and is probably stronger too.
All the best.
Stuart.
Softrider V2
Robert Stewart
Active Member
I'll second that. A nice rear air shock to match the front would be ideal. Maybe another kind shock unit of some sort would work? They would certainly have to work from the same pump. Other than that, disc brake tabs sound like a good plan, and more storage options would be a bonus.
Cheers,
Rob
Mark B
Zen MBB Master
I'm going to bump this thread because I've been thinking. :roll: Yeah, I know, dangerous thing!
I'd really love to see what I would call a hybrid urban assault vehicle. By that, I mean a bicycle that would take all the best ideas from the Silvio and incorporate that into a 26" wheeled commuting/touring rocketship on wheels. Skip the rear suspension and throw in an incorporated rear rack. If you can do the incorporated rack with suspension, well, OK then... Throw on some fender bosses, disc brake tabs and sell the thing as a frameset. I love the concept of the frameset because it gives you so much flexibility in how you build the bike.
Mark
I'd really love to see what I would call a hybrid urban assault vehicle. By that, I mean a bicycle that would take all the best ideas from the Silvio and incorporate that into a 26" wheeled commuting/touring rocketship on wheels. Skip the rear suspension and throw in an incorporated rear rack. If you can do the incorporated rack with suspension, well, OK then... Throw on some fender bosses, disc brake tabs and sell the thing as a frameset. I love the concept of the frameset because it gives you so much flexibility in how you build the bike.
Mark
