S40 Roadie

paco1961

Zen MBB Master
My S40 came in at 24.1lbs but that's w Novatec CXD wheelset and 25mm Conti 4000s, Sram Force 22 brifters, Ultegra crankset (50:34) Force 22 FD double and GX 11-36 11 speed. TRP mechanical discs, Nashbar flat mtb pedals (for now!) and bottle/cage. Thinking I might lose the head rest. Only using it to hold the neon green matching wedge pack and guiding it down the basement stairs.
 

Luis Rives

Member
My S40 came in at 24.1lbs but that's w Novatec CXD wheelset and 25mm Conti 4000s, Sram Force 22 brifters, Ultegra crankset (50:34) Force 22 FD double and GX 11-36 11 speed. TRP mechanical discs, Nashbar flat mtb pedals (for now!) and bottle/cage. Thinking I might lose the head rest. Only using it to hold the neon green matching wedge pack and guiding it down the basement stairs.
Paco, at the bottom of your message there is "s40" and "whole bunch..." How do you get that to display? Yes, the mech discs and the brifters are very heavy from any manufacturer.
 

paco1961

Zen MBB Master
Go to your account info and click on "signature". Haven't started the Weight weenie stuff yet. Waiting til I can ride it safely and steadily at 20mph first!
 

paco1961

Zen MBB Master
So w all the shiny and silky smooth Ti in the stable, why the S40? Lynskey man myself for no particular reason over LS. Saddle issues chased me off the DFs. Nice stable though!
 

Luis Rives

Member
I had the LS before I discovered Cruzbike, and even now still enjoy riding the LS once in a while. I would never sell them. Beautiful to even just look at them. Welds are incredible. Perfect material for bicycles. Just imagine what the S40 and V20 would be like if they were made out of Ti because the MBB concept of Cruzbike is the right way to do bicycles.
 

paco1961

Zen MBB Master
Agreed. Same w the Lynskey. Sweet machines. Saving my money for the Ti S40 w carbon fork, boom and chain stay! Might even part w the custom Ti Singlespeed for that!
 

snilard

Guru of hot glue gun
By and large yes. It starts 500 feet from my home, paved smooth as a baby's bottom, no vehicular traffic to lookout for, scenery is all rural, only thing I have to worry about is not running over the occassional jogger or little kid on their training wheel bike not paying attention to who else is around them. At certain times of the day on weekends (I work on weekdays, that is how I pay for the S40) I see less people in 12.5 miles than I have fingers in one hand.
How does it differ from riding on turbo trainer?
I ride a bike because of freedom. I can decide where I will ride on next turn. It can carry me to nice and magical places.
 

paco1961

Zen MBB Master
Darn. Can't even ride the S40 at a good pace yet and I already have to sell it to finance the Ti S36! Not fair . . .
 

dtseng

Well-Known Member
DIY. I have access to an institution where there are Auto CAD, 3-D printing, CNC machining, TIG welding, and metal forming.
During the design stage, I make sure that the length of the stock for the front derailleur hanger is correct for both standard and compact chain rings. CB stock is too long for compact (50/34) chain rings. The most challenging part was the bending of the main frame tube; after bending, it was rolled into elongated elliptic cross-section. It would be easier to form 20-degree back rest angle like in V20 with less bend. I installed 32mm tire on the rear wheel and standard road bike caliper brake.
 
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Luis Rives

Member
DIY. I have access to an institution where there are Auto Ti CAD, 3-D printing, CNC machining, TIG welding, and metal forming.
During the design stage, I make sure that the length of the stock for the front derailleur hanger is correct for both standard and compact chain rings. CB stock is too long for compact (50/34) chain rings. The most challenging part was the bending of the main frame tube; after bending, it was rolled into elongated elliptic cross-section. It would be easier to form 20-degree back rest angle like in V20 with less bend. I installed 32mm tire on the rear wheel and standard road bike caliper brake.
I recall having seen a web site for a Far East manufacturer of Ti frames that displayed a very similar model to this. Give how images can be taken from sites on the 'net, I don't know if this is the same bike. Will try to track it down. Not a bad interpretation, though the forks should be CF and not Ti. The curved seat stays in the back would contribute to some road damping. That is one of the best features of the LS bikes.
 

dtseng

Well-Known Member
Yes, the forks should be CF to further reduce the weight. The photo appeared briefly on the Internet was based entirely on my design, but I warned them that the steering column with two sliding adjustments was an intellectual property of CB. They would have to do with fixed straight tube such as Emeljay's. I purchased Ti tubes from suppliers in Xian, the tubes were further processed into butted tubings in my hometown in Taiwan. Once the bike is dialed in, I'll replace the steering column with a fixed tube for personal use. The curved seat stays have been used by Lynskey and many others. The use of larger tires with lower pressure is more effective in vibration damping. My next project would be to build an MBB bike with high strength maraging steel.
CB's one-size-fit -all works to some extent. The same bike can be adjusted to make it "ridable" for John and Jane alike. For short x-seam, the BB is close to the head tube; for long x-seam, the BB is further afront. The "feel" of these two configurations would never be the same. The concentration of heavy mass on the front wheel makes steering difficult (perhaps downright dangerous). In parking position, the front wheel tends flop to the side. I think, new Q's using single chain ring and making seat adjustable are the iteration in the right direction.
 
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dtseng

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As shown above with an old rear wheel/32mm tire, it weighs 7.8 Kg. Add seat, handlebar, left/right shifters, chain, and cassette, I think sub-ten Kg is achievable. Eventually I would want to have CF forks made. CF forks are available for fat bikes, but the opening is 150mm.
 
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