Silvio S 30 Thailand

Steve Rose

Member
just finished late yesterday Round 2 at the Bangkok Skylane 1hr 28 mins, max speed 22.5km/h avg speed 16.8km/h
11 minutes faster than the first time, more confident now. I have no idea how the speeds look, but I feel slow as virtually all the DFB riders pass me.
many take their phones out and snap pics of the silvio S 30 as I am sure they have not seen another.
 

DavidCH

In thought; expanding the paradigm of traversity
If you concentrate on the engine, your pace will have an upward momentum and your recovery after a ride would be a lot quicker than a DF rider.

Just keep doing the kms. Truth be told things can only improve.

Reward yourself as you get faster and when you get to different target weights.

The Silvio is a great bike.

Congratulations on the 11 minutes faster. That is an achievement too. I luv breaking my PBs.
:cool::cool::cool:
 

hoyden

Well-Known Member
things can only improve.
Steve, I second what David said. I've been riding less than a month, over 600 miles, and I have seen my performance and confidence improve with time in the saddle. I focus on doing it well; the ride I get is the ride I intended. I just discovered yesterday that when I am making a u-turn I need to ensure I am slow enough to make the turn in the desired radius. My over-wide turns were not helped by the excess speed upon entry.
 

Steve Rose

Member
I have a question for the silvio riders. I have been riding a park loop of 2.3 KM now in 7 minutes 52 secs. according to Strava some 600+ people on DFB make the same loop in 2-3 minutes. Four times faster. I am still a yeoman, but this is disheartening. I am regularly passed by obese rides cruising bye me while I pedal a rapid cadence. Is there something inherently contributing to a faster speed of a DFB verses a Silvio S 30 recumbent?
 

LarryOz

Cruzeum Curator & Sigma Wrangler
Is there something inherently contributing to a faster speed of a DFB verses a Silvio S 30 recumbent?
On a course without hard hills, the same rider will expend less energy to maintain the same speed on a Silvio that an upright almost always - (unless a full out TT setup) - Just keep riding and getting in better fitness and I'll bet you'll eventually start passing DF riders. I saw an increase in speed of about 10kph over a 3 month period when I first had my Silvio, and I was able to work up to riding a 40K in about an hour, so it's possible - just keep with it. Once you do that - then you'll start dreaming about a Vendetta because you just want to go faster! :)
 

ratz

Wielder of the Rubber Mallet
I have a question for the silvio riders. I have been riding a park loop of 2.3 KM now in 7 minutes 52 secs. according to Strava some 600+ people on DFB make the same loop in 2-3 minutes. Four times faster. I am still a yeoman, but this is disheartening. I am regularly passed by obese rides cruising bye me while I pedal a rapid cadence. Is there something inherently contributing to a faster speed of a DFB verses a Silvio S 30 recumbent?

Some data would be useful.
Bike Weight
Rider weight
Speed on the 2.3 km loop (my estimate is that you are doing 8 kph) 8min/60min = .13, 2.3/.13 = 8 kph
cadence
Gearing choice
 

LarryOz

Cruzeum Curator & Sigma Wrangler
Some data would be useful.
Bike Weight
Rider weight
Speed on the 2.3 km loop (my estimate is that you are doing 8 kph) 8min/60min = .13, 2.3/.13 = 8 kph
cadence
Gearing choice
Also give us the KOM name of the segment that you are referring to- so we can check out the elevation profile and the other riders.
 

Rick Youngblood

CarbonCraft Master
Also give us the KOM name of the segment that you are referring to- so we can check out the elevation profile and the other riders.
...don't forget to get a core sample of the blacktop, send it to: care of Ratz, that way he can have it analyzed, and set you up with the correct tire compound and pressure...just kidding, couldn't resist, sorry, welcome Steve sometimes we like to have fun. :D:D:D

What the guys are trying to figure out is your effort as opposed to the DF'ers. Were was your heart rate, how much effort were you putting into get a great lap, etc?
 

Steve Rose

Member
I have the app Strava, how can I upload a ride to this forum? My speed is between 17 to 19 kph
I weight 212 lbs. I am in the big win in the front and big ring in the rear, sometimes one gear less. Any other combo just spins too fast with little effect on the forward movement. Track is very level zero elevation. Usually close to 100 degrees Fahrenheit.
 

Rick Youngblood

CarbonCraft Master
I have the app Strava, how can I upload a ride to this forum? My speed is between 17 to 19 kph
I weight 212 lbs. I am in the big win in the front and big ring in the rear, sometimes one gear less. Any other combo just spins too fast with little effect on the forward movement. Track is very level zero elevation. Usually close to 100 degrees Fahrenheit.
Steve you can copy and paste the Stava ride activity link here on the forum in the post reply window. You can also join the Cruzbike club at https://www.strava.com/clubs/cruzbike if you haven't already.

Okay, I can see why you are spinning fast and not picking up speed, you are in the lowest gear of your cassette, or rear gear. Have you tried dropping down more gears in the (rear) as you pick up momentum until you are up to a speed and a cadence you can manage?
 

Rick Youngblood

CarbonCraft Master
I hate it when that happens!
what was she doing - riding in freezing rain or something!
No, first time this year out on the bike, it's been sitting for 6 months. She told me after 7 miles she couldn't shift up or down, and that's why she couldn't increase her speed. So that's when I jumped on the bike and got wobbly, thus my thread I posted a week or so ago about Non-MBB recumbents don't have enough pedal steer.
 

Steve Rose

Member
I will try friday to mix up the gears more: big ring in front and a smaller gear in rear. So far in the past this is too easy to turn and not much movement forward.
I just joined the strava cruz training log public, take a look, and offer your thoughts.
 

ratz

Wielder of the Rubber Mallet
I will try friday to mix up the gears more: big ring in front and a smaller gear in rear. So far in the past this is too easy to turn and not much movement forward.
I just joined the strava cruz training log public, take a look, and offer your thoughts.

If almost feel like we are taking backward.

Big ring in Front 50T-56T typical and small in the back 11T would be the normal wording. When you say smaller gear that implies like the 28-32T in the back.

Running 50x11 and pedaling 80 rpm should put you well into the high 20's mph (would be hard to pedal slow)
Running 50x36 and pedaling 80 rpm would have you moving around 7-8 mph. (would be really easy to pedal slow).


This gear calculator might be useful to you it will tell you how fast you have to pedal for a given gear combination to get which speeds

http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.sherman/shift.html?R0=36&R1=52&R2=999&C0=11&C1=12&C2=13&C3=15&C4=17&C5=19&C6=22&C7=25&C8=28&C9=32&C10=999&CAS=0&WI=8&CR=165&RT=1&ST=0&RPM=90&SRT=0&lRPM=70&hRMP=110&G=show&S=no&TITLE=Bob Ps Silvio 2&HL=1
 

castlerobber

Zen MBB Master
I am in the big win in the front and big ring in the rear, sometimes one gear less. Any other combo just spins too fast with little effect on the forward movement.
big ring in front and a smaller gear in rear. So far in the past this is too easy to turn and not much movement forward.

Steve, please forgive me if I'm being too basic.

I understand you to say you're on the 50-tooth chainring (the physically larger one of the two) on the crankset, and the 36-tooth cog (the physically largest on the cassette). Your chain would be at a significant side-to-side angle, rather than parallel to the bike, and the rear derailleur stretched very far forward. If that's correct, this is a very easy gear.

As you shift the rear to physically smaller cogs, with fewer teeth, the bike should become harder to pedal. But you say it gets easier to pedal when you do that.

What have I missed/misunderstood?
 
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