Andrews V20C Build 2025 discussion (1st time building bike)

Finally able to start building bike this morning and ran into an issue straight away. I ordered the curved slider and it will not slide into the boom with the clamp in the boom WITHOUT THE SCREWS EVEN IN. I tested the stock straight boom on the slider and it goes on without an issue. Am i missing a different clamp that was supposed to be with the new curved slider?
I don't know what's hanging up in your case. My advice is to make sure the metal press clamp is well seated over the screw bosses and the screws are fully retracted. There are detents in the metal that keep the clamp in place, but it can easily slide off, especially if it's tilted some. Hold the boom and slider level and top-up. The curved and straight sliders should be identical in that area, so I don't expect any issues.
 

Andrew Roerkohl

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Well 24 hours later i am finally done with step 1, I had to file/sand the boom clamps paint off for the curved slider to fit. See pics below. While i was contemplating what to do i cleaned my chain for waxing and put my tire together.....i think i finally seated my bead and it might be holding air finally. Looks like i am going to have to buy a new air pump and Co2 cartridges.
 

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Andrew Roerkohl

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While installing my handlebars my tire exploded of the rim, wow wee what a loud boom. I was troubleshooting a small leak still and thought pumping up the pressure to 100psi would expose it and the then fluid would leak/seal where air was escaping. well now i am back to square one. bad thing is it exploded fluid all over my boys pokemon cards and lego boxes. And my wife freaked out.
 

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chicorider

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Yikes! Sorry to hear about your tire explosion. My experience with mounting tubeless tires and adding sealant is that it takes a ride to really work the sealant into all those tiny spots where air can leak out. Make sure the bead is all the way set on the rim, pump up the tires to regular ride pressure and go for a ride. After that, the tire is usually all set until it's time to remove it for replacement.
 

Frito Bandito

Zen MBB Master
Bike is looking good Andrew. Sorry for the laughing emoji on the post where the tire blew. I'm not laughing at you, I am laughing with you since I've done the same thing. Traumatized my cats and almost gave me a heart attack hahaha.
I'm sure you already know but be mindful of the torque settings on the BB, head rest clamp and bar bolts. A wet finger around the rim beads might help the tires seat even under lower pressure.
 

Andrew Roerkohl

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been following the torque settings on everything while watching Robert Holler build one on the resources tab. This is exactly why i wanted to build it myself so i learned every part of the build. Another thing that surprised me was the hoses were already connected the the HRD Brifters on my SRAMS brake controllers. And they had fluid in them. you had to cut them to run the hoses thru the frame. So many things to learn. And don't worry about the emoji, were recumbent riders, that means we naturally have the ability to laugh at ourselves.
 

kizarmynot

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While installing my handlebars my tire exploded of the rim, wow wee what a loud boom. I was troubleshooting a small leak still and thought pumping up the pressure to 100psi would expose it and the then fluid would leak/seal where air was escaping. well now i am back to square one. bad thing is it exploded fluid all over my boys pokemon cards and lego boxes. And my wife freaked out.
This may need an entire new post, but I’m interested in the different methods people use for tubeless tires (always trying to learn). For example, the only time I will use a high pressure for a tire is when seating it, and that is without sealant and I don’t recall ever going over the recommended max pressure. Once seated I only press up to the max advertised on the tire, although recommended pressure for weight and tire is usually much less. For sealant, I always add via the valve stem - in other words, I never fill the tire first and then seat the tire to the rim.
Has anyone found a reason to do things differently?
 

chicorider

Zen MBB Master
That's pretty much how I do it. Use a compressor to seat the bead (pop-pop-pop), add sealant through the valve stem, re-inflate, go for a ride. I have five bikes, all running tubeless tires, and I add sealant every six months, or so. To help keep track of that, I keep a list of dates, new tire installations, and how much sealant I added:

03-19-25: V20c, 2 oz. F & R
or...
03-19-25: S30, 2 oz. F (new tire)

I will cross that out when I add a new entry for that bike six months later.
 

cpml123

Zen MBB Master
That's pretty much how I do it. Use a compressor to seat the bead (pop-pop-pop), add sealant through the valve stem, re-inflate, go for a ride. I have five bikes, all running tubeless tires, and I add sealant every six months, or so. To help keep track of that, I keep a list of dates, new tire installations, and how much sealant I added:

03-19-25: V20c, 2 oz. F & R
or...
03-19-25: S30, 2 oz. F (new tire)

I will cross that out when I add a new entry for that bike six months later.
Do you just keep adding or you actually clean it out once a year?
 

Andrew Roerkohl

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now I am stuck on the bottom bracket, doesn’t seem the threads are machined properly, I know better to force it, it screws in for about 1/2 rotation and stops. Should I not be able to thread this all the way in by hand?
 

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Andrew Roerkohl

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The picture above is misleading a bit because of the reflection of the grease. I have not cross-threaded it, going to my bike shop to run a tap thru the hole to make sure i dont force anything. Anyone else have difficulty here?
 
now I am stuck on the bottom bracket, doesn’t seem the threads are machined properly, I know better to force it, it screws in for about 1/2 rotation and stops. Should I not be able to thread this all the way in by hand?
Don’t force it. Most likely is cross-threading, you need to ensure the bb is aligned correctly. Try turning the bb backwards and when you feel a click screw it in. Much less likely is some burr or other defect on the threads.
 

Andrew Roerkohl

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yes its threading on just fine until it doesnt so that leads me to believe their is a burr on the thread. Priced the taps and even the cheapest quality was not something i was willing to spend. I purchase alot from my local bike shop so i think they might just run the tap thru for free. And i cant let them torque it because i am going to build this bike myself and i purchased an expensive torque wrench as well.
 

Andrew Roerkohl

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And i dont think i could of cross threaded it because i only tightened by hand, never forced it. And i had greased the threads beforehand. I will update forum after trip to bike shop in 2 hours
 

kizarmynot

Active Member
And i dont think i could have cross threaded it because i only tightened by hand, never forced it. And i had greased the threads beforehand. I will update forum after trip to bike shop in 2 hours
Does your BB have thread locker on it? If so, I’d be interested to hear what your LBS has to say about using grease. The Park Tool video on BB installation notes that grease should not be used if thread locker is applied.
 
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