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This is the second forum I've contributed to in my life. Each time I've been chased off by a herd mentality. You might want to look up the definition of troll and ask yourselves in good faith if it fits.

"I believe that with this tread we run into a similar situation as we lived once in November 2013 with a member called pRC from Raleigh, NC. He drove John T. nuts until he gave his final answer (read John T. Nov.9 2013)" After some digging I found this on the site. I see now why you didn't...

"Time for everyone just move on." No one is forcing you to participate in this discussion or read the thread.

"I sold my Raleigh Revenio with a bit over 1100 miles on it - wrist pain. Bought a Trek CF Domane that was supposedly the best bike on the market for wrist pain (according to the bike shop) because it has a more upright position to reduce the weight on your wrists - sold it after only 660 miles...

Indeed this is one of the problems with DF, you look down and not ahead. But by "the road ahead" I also meant "the stuff around you". Many people have remarked, some on this thread I believe, that if you ever do something like enter an intersection with a seat like this you have to sit up if...

By the way, you two agree but you're saying different things. "There are places you can go and get the bike fitted. Rose City Recumbents in Portland, OR being one excellent example. But this community is small and the geometry is different. The number of service options is limited."...

Correction: They're not going in a different direction than I was hoping they would. They are going in a different direction than they were already going. Without drawing adequate attention to the different direction and its importance for an everyday rider - the kind who sells the bike with...

I wonder if Cruzbike would endorse your view that every buyer has to be a mechanic and set up the geometry of the bike themselves to fit. I didn't see that mentioned anywhere on the website pitching their bikes to the public. And, if your view is correct, that chronic pain will as you say result...

It's not just comfort, it's your view of the road ahead. And sure there will be people who find it comfortable, of course. But there seem to be enough people who don't to make one wonder.

Thank you very much for that link. Actually, the experiment, the results and the long discussion on the forum rather prove my point. Or my several points. The Silvio seat design is off, it is not the optimum design for most riders in most situations - only long-haul riding - and there is...

Cruz made that seat angle and stopped. Why? We've seen there's demand for it. I've spoken to people who ride with towels rolled up behind their heads on a $5K bike. They find the seat too "deeply reclined". And it's not just the seat angle itself, it's what they've done to the neck angle in...

It just struck me. People, or many or most people, who ride a recumbent do so for comfort and/or because of chronic pain problems associated with or aggravated by diamond frames. How many brands of recumbent have you heard being sold like-new because they're causing chronic pain problems? And I...

Visited the Bent Rider classifieds to see if there were any used Silvio 1.5 (or Meta-Bikes . . .). The most recent Silvio listed, from last fall (now sold), was a 2.0. Interesting to see what the seller and then another member of the forum said about the bike, both good and bad: Alas, my...

Wow. "To tell you the truth" I didn't even read this long tirade in its entirety. Someone's complaining about MY attitude? You should hear yourself. I don't think it's at all relevant, and certainly none of your business, how long I've been registered on the forum and how often I contribute...

I think I'd rather have "recumbent bottom" than chronic muscle pain in my neck or, eventually, arthritis, by the looks of the Silvio 3.0 seat. I think it's a bad design and potentially harmful, to tell you the truth. It's a shame. The Silvio 1 - 1.5 was a harmonious road bike. I don't know what...

I'm sure I've seen discussion of this here before but can't find a specific thread; my apologies for any duplication. The question: am I the only one who laments the deeply reclined seat on the last couple of versions of the Silvio? I don't understand it. A great road bike has been turned into...