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JOSEPHWEISSERT

Zen MBB Master
It’s the big Thursday night A ride. We start out with a group of over 10 A riders. I’m just getting over a bad cold and my lungs are still full of mucus. I’ve been off the bike for a while due to the cold. But my legs feel well rested. After a few miles into the ride, the former professional Olympic athlete (POA) joins the group. This guy is by far the most powerful rider around. No one else even compares. He starts off by jacking up the pace significantly. Not much later, we lose two riders off the back. I swerve around them and stay with the group. Then a single rider drops off the back. Then we lose two more riders. A strong rider flats and pulls off the road. The attrition continues until I’m trying desperately to follow POA as he continues alone to motor on down the road. I can’t even stay in his draft. I’m just barely staying near him. Finally, the strong riders take a shortcut and regroup with POA and we continue on. Now I’m feeling tired from the cold and from chasing POA. It turns into another high-speed chase and then we get to the final 6.5-mile stretch. I fall off the back of the group a little and then the group of four (POA, 21YOP, and two others) take off at a pace I can’t maintain. Slowly, over the miles, they pull away. Then POA pulls off to go home. I pass him and continue to chase the remaining three. I go as fast as I can, but I never catch them. They’re just too far out and too strong and are working together. They take the sign.

It’s Saturday morning. There are four of us in the A group. Before the A riders split off from the rest of the riders, a 21-year-old-punk (21YOP) is trash-talking my bike. 21YOP is a really strong rider – one of the strongest A riders in the area. I find out that he was one of the four riders that dropped me two days ago on the Thursday ride. But 21YOP has earned a smack down for the trash talk. So the four of us ride for a while and then hit a nice long stretch of flat road. 21YOP and I drop the other two. We cross a highway and I stop to take a nature break as we wait. Then the other two A riders catch up and the four of us regroup. Soon after, 21YOP and I drop the other two A riders again. We take turns pulling up a long stretch. Then we turn onto another road where there is a sprint. I pull 21YOP up and over a short hill and then blast down the other side pulling a big gap. 21YOP is working hard to try to keep up, but he just can’t even come close. He’s huffing and puffing and working it. The downhill doesn’t last long and flattens out. I continue on at high speed and I easily take the sign. Smack-down number one. Then I continue at speed to cross the highway since, fortunately, I have the green light. 21YOP is so far behind me that he gets stuck at the light. I look back and he’s standing there waiting for the light to change. I continue up the road a ways toward the final sprint. Then I turn right at an intersection, do a U-turn, and wait in the shadows of some trees on the left side of the road. Some recreational cyclist goes by toward the final sprint. I wait some more. I hear some noise and then I see 21YOP zipping by in a chase. He thinks the rec rider is me, so he doesn’t even turn his head at the intersection. I’m standing there in the shadows but in broad daylight and he blows right past me. All he had to do was turn his head and he would have seen me. So I take off and chase him. He can’t see me because he has no mirrors. I make my approach and then lay on some speed. I zoom past him at over 30 mph and drop him again. I continue on up the road and take the sign. He didn’t know what hit him. Smack-down number two.

It’s the Thursday night A ride again. We have a sizable group of over 10 A riders. We get to the elusive sprint. I have never been able to win this sprint yet. We cross the one last intersection before the long trek to the sign. Things start happening quickly. I’m moving up and people are falling back. I get behind 21D and 21YOP and draft for a little bit. Then I pull left and easily pass them (surprise, surprise!) and take the sign. Smack-down number three. This is the first time I have ever been able to win this sprint. I work on getting my breath back. Things get a little sketchy as 21D and 21YOP try to get the group back together. I continue on alone. But they are not successful at getting the group back together. Then they get ahead of me. One of them drops a water bottle. I get ahead of them. I see some other riders coming from the other direction. They are about to turn where I turn. Then 21D and 21YOP use the other cyclists as cover and sneak up on me. They try to pass me but I put out some power and they fall back. Then 21D turns off to go home at the beginning of the final 6.5-mile stretch leaving only 21YOP and me to fight for the final sprint. All other A riders are in the dust at this point. So it’s just 21YOP and me. We take turns pulling for miles and miles. I make him work to stay behind me when I’m pulling. Then we get to the final curves and I lay down all my reserved power and jack up the speed into the thirties. I pull away from 21YOP leaving him gasping and pumping in my mirrors. I take the sign. Smack-down number four.

The Saturday ride was rained out, so I go out for an easy 110-mile solo ride on Sunday.

It's Thursday night again with over 10 A riders in the A group. We ride on for many miles. The first sprint is the elusive sprint – the one I got last week for the first time ever. The jockeying-for-position begins and I pull in behind 21D and another bike. Then CH forces his way in front of me. I pulled back around CH and then 21D jacks up the speed. The rider in the second position drops back and then CH slows down. I pull around CH, who waves me on, and I go after 21D all by my lonesome. I jack up the power output and catch him quickly and then pass him at almost 36 mph. I give him a casual “Hi” as I pass him (like, I’m just out for an easy ride today, ya know, and I accidentally ended up in front of you as you tried to win the sprint) then I take the sign. That's two weeks in a row for the sprint I had never won before. Score: 1 to 0. I work on catching my breath for a while. The group reforms and is soon off again at high speed. We zip around a right turn and then zip around a left turn a go down a nice road for quite a ways. Then I see some movement up front as we get near the next sign, so I start to move up. I blow by a bunch of riders and catch the front guys, who are going uphill for the next sign. 21D is in front. Most everyone else drops quickly and then I pass 21D. But then CH gives it a good try. He comes on strong. He is right on my wheel and then almost overtakes me. I’m pushing pedals as hard as I can now second after precious second as I wait him out. Then he blows up and I continue on for a short distance and take the sign. Score: 2 to 0. Then we make our way toward the long stretch to the end and there is a third sign I didn’t count on. I see activity in front as some guys jump for the sign. Oh crap! I forgot about that sign. I’m way in back, so I jump and pass everyone except 21D, who is up front alone and who is going for the sign. He thinks he has it made, so he lets up just a bit. I turn up the power output to maximum thrust and catch him – just after he passes the sign. So close but no cigar! Score: 2 to 1. So I take advantage of my inertia and continue on where I make the turn onto the final 6.5-mile stretch. I have to make a critical decision now. Do I wait and take advantage of the group until the final sprint? Or do I go solo and see if I can use my inertia and my lead advantage to stay ahead of the pack for 6.5 miles and get the sprint before the group does? I decide that I’ll go solo to see what I can do alone. I’ve already won this sprint multiple times before by staying with the pack, watching it shrink as they lose riders, and then blowing past the strongest remaining riders to take the sign. So I’ll try something new. I sail along but I don’t see anyone in my mirrors. I pass some recreational riders at high speed. I keep on going for miles and miles. I’m not even sure they’re chasing me because I can’t see them. Then I spot something in my mirrors. It isn’t obvious yet. It first appears as a dark spot in my mirrors. I slow down as I go up a hill and then blast down the other side going in the mid thirties trying to gain some distance quickly. Now I’m pretty sure it's the chase group. The color of the spot in my mirrors is changing from red to white to red from their different jerseys as they rotate through. I keep on pushing hard to make the remaining miles. I’m keeping a 26 mph pace, but they’re gaining on me. I still have a couple of curves to go around and they keep slowly gaining. Now I’m almost to the sign and they launch 21D off the front and he comes up fast behind me. I’m somewhat wasted from the long six-mile pull and can’t get any more power to the pedals. But I’m running over 31 mph still. I’m almost at the sign and I see 21D grow too quickly in my mirrors. And there he is. He passes me just before I get to the sign. Crap! Score: 2 to 2. It’s “Even Steven” for the day.
 

super slim

Zen MBB Master
Joseph,
You obviously know these riders, so have any of the A riders asked for details about the Vendetta, OR are their noses stuck up in the air too far.

What speed increases do you think you have achieved afer 3 months (to get your recumbent legs)
1) on the flat,
2) on a 5% climb,
3) on a 10% climb,
4) on a 5% descent,
5) on a 10% descent
 

Lief

Guru Schmuru
Great read Joseph.
I'm betting your group of riders is (or is rapidly getting) accustomed to the powers of your platform (never let a bent get away on downhill for example). I'm thinking they are a good powerful group of riders - you will get SO good SO fast riding with these guys. It already shows.

Nice work.
 

JOSEPHWEISSERT

Zen MBB Master
Joseph,
You obviously know these riders, so have any of the A riders asked for details about the Vendetta, OR are their noses stuck up in the air too far.

What speed increases do you think you have achieved afer 3 months (to get your recumbent legs)
1) on the flat,
2) on a 5% climb,
3) on a 10% climb,
4) on a 5% descent,
5) on a 10% descent
Well, I get all kinds of questions from all types of cyclists and non-cyclists. I was cruising home at over 30 mph a couple of days ago and was unknowingly being followed by a neighbor who was amazed at my speed and then had questions. The most exercise he gets is fishing and golf. I did a group ride this morning and a non-A rider had all sorts of questions. One common question is something like, "So, is it more aerodynamic than a regular bike?" When I do a cycling event, I always get a lot questions. This has been going on from when I first started riding and has not stopped yet. So, it has been well- received in the cycling community. The Thursday ride LBS owner told me to either stay out front or off the back because they don't get a good draft off of me. But some of the A riders have been experimenting with drafting off me and found they can get a useful draft if they get into a really low position. They are getting smart and are starting to use this against me.

I don't have specific data to quantify my power output. But I can say that riding in groups, riding events, and hauling a 28-pound bike up hills has made me progressively stronger and able to put out a lot of power over long distances. The hill thing is that I get stronger from hauling extra weight up hills to keep up with lighter bikes. The power developed by that training then gives me an advantage when on flats and downhills against DFs. For instance, I rode the ODRAM mostly alone and finished with a ride time of 7.5 hours but was not tired at the end of 147 miles. So, to answer your question, I have improved power output progressively over the summer in all areas you listed.
 

JOSEPHWEISSERT

Zen MBB Master
Great read Joseph.
I'm betting your group of riders is (or is rapidly getting) accustomed to the powers of your platform (never let a bent get away on downhill for example). I'm thinking they are a good powerful group of riders - you will get SO good SO fast riding with these guys. It already shows.

Nice work.
The DFs have been watching, talking, and learning. At first, they didn't know what hit them and didn't know what to do. Then they started attacking me individually during sprints. That only worked if I wasn't paying attention or they tricked and distracted me. One time, the guy in the front of a 3-man breakaway was saying, "But I was going 33 mph!" They thought they had the sprint. But I passed them going 35. Now, they've learned they can get a little draft, and they can work together to catch me and launch a sprinter at me at the end. This has happened at the last Thursday ride and at today's ride. The first time, it barely worked. The second time, it was too close to call. Some of them still try to catch me blasting downhill, which is not possible, and they don't know how to deal with that yet. Since their strategies are getting better, I need another V that can take turns pulling and give me a rest. That will put the Vendetta out of reach again. For now, it's just me against a group. I hope to get just one A rider to switch for next year.
 

JOSEPHWEISSERT

Zen MBB Master
I was feeling pretty fatigued on Sunday, because I've been pushing it hard all season. I could tell because my quads would burn when I put out any effort. So I gave myself four recovery days and just rode one-hour recovery rides until today. So today, I rode down to the LBS for the Thursday night ride. My legs were feeling okay - they didn't burn when I pushed hard. We got going and there were eleven A riders including me. We hit a hill and I blasted up past the group, so I held back at the top to let the group get back in front. It was still pretty early in the ride. Then we started picking up speed and dropped a couple of riders. We blew through hills and curves for miles and miles and finally ended up at the elusive sprint. I move up quickly to make sure I was close to the front when things started to happen. One guy moved out front, a second guy moved in behind him, and a really strong rider moved into third place. I moved over and got behind the strong rider to block anyone else from joining the pain train in front of me. I knew what they were doing, because they did it last week. They were going to launch the strongest guy at the sign - and leave me in his dust. I waited until we got a little closer to the sign, which is quite a ways off at the beginning, and the front guy pulled off. The number two guy became the number one guy, and the strong guy became number two. So that made me number three. The guy in front moved over to the right side of the road so the strong guy could jump out at the sign pretty soon. So I moved up around the strong guy, who was number two, and pulled in to my right so that I got really close to the number one guy, but I was back half a bike length so the strong guy in number two position was blocked in between the number one guy and me. He could either slow down to get around me, or he could sit and wait. He waited a little too long, and when we got close enough to the sign, I jumped and sprinted to the sign, taking it easily. He was chasing me but it wasn't even close. That little strategy worked like a charm. It kind of mucked up their plan. Score: 1-0. After the sign I took a left turn and went ahead to the next sign. The slower guys were still back a ways and the group tried to reform. While they were getting it together, I was on my way to the next sign. I got there before the group could catch me. Score: 2-0. Then they caught me and we turned right. I went out and pulled until the next turn. I took off again and was out front by myself for a while. Then the group finally caught me as we got close to the third sign. I let the group pass me on my left and then I swung around on the group's left and jumped for the sign. As soon as I jumped, three guys out front also jumped. So I moved up fast and passed them all, surprising them, and sprinted uphill for the sign. I was so far ahead that I just stopped pedaling and let a sprinting rider try to catch me. I coasted uphill past the sign and then the guy finally passed me - but after I coasted past the sign. Score: 3-0. The other guy and I turned the corner. The other guy waited for the group and I took off again by myself. I could see the group behind me, but I stayed out front for five miles and easily took another sign. Score: 4-0. Then I turned up the next road, which is another 6.5 miles to the last sign, and I took off like a bat out of hell. I was pretty sure the group would catch me because I had unsuccessfully tried this before. 6.5 miles is a long way to pull by myself. I kept my speed mostly between 25 and 28 mph for most of the distance. I was hoping that they could see my tail light so they would bust their butts trying to catch me. That would cause the weaker riders to drop, thereby decreasing the recovery time for the remaining stronger riders, which I hoped would tire them out before they could catch me. I could see a dark spot in my mirrors, but I was way ahead. I knew I had to maintain a really high speed, or else the group would catch me as it did last time, and it would launch the strong guy at me again like a missile. So I kept on pumping the pedals. My legs were feeling great. I was pushing hard and my legs kept on putting out the power. The recovery had paid off. I was still way ahead of the group when I got to the final curves. Now I started thinking I really had a chance to win this sprint after running at the red line for the last 11.5 miles. There's just no way they could close a huge gap in the time remaining. I saw the sign. Still no one in my mirrors. I got closer. Still no one. No missiles. I passed the sign. They were just too far back. Score: 5-0. Tonight, the Vendetta rules the road.
 

LarryOz

Cruzeum Curator & Sigma Wrangler
Great ride report Joe. Nice to see you putting a hurting on the DF's.
Curious about these "A" riders and what they are capable of.
Have they or you done any 20K or 40K, or 1 hour TT recently.
If so, what are times?
 

JOSEPHWEISSERT

Zen MBB Master
Great ride report Joe. Nice to see you putting a hurting on the DF's.
Curious about these "A" riders and what they are capable of.
Have they or you done any 20K or 40K, or 1 hour TT recently.
If so, what are times?
I don't follow any of their race results, but I've heard that some of them do quite well in local races. Others are just strong riders that don't race much or at all. Some did the N24HC and the ODRAM. One is a former pro athlete and ran in the Olympics - but he stomps all over everyone including me. Sorry I don't have any stats for reference. I haven't done any time trials. I'm just a newbie on a V and am having as much fun as a little kid. I might do a time trial if they let me ride my V. Maybe next season. But I prefer the century rides myself. Especially when they turn into races.
 

Eric Winn

Zen MBB Master
I don't follow any of their race results, but I've heard that some of them do quite well in local races. Others are just strong riders that don't race much or at all. Some did the N24HC and the ODRAM. One is a former pro athlete and ran in the Olympics - but he stomps all over everyone including me. Sorry I don't have any stats for reference. I haven't done any time trials. I'm just a newbie on a V and am having as much fun as a little kid. I might do a time trial if they let me ride my V. Maybe next season. But I prefer the century rides myself. Especially when they turn into races.

You should come to the Michigan HPVA races at Waterford next year. Larry, Darryl and I had a blast on our Vendettas.
 

JOSEPHWEISSERT

Zen MBB Master
I know this is getting boring. It's starting to be the same old story: Vendetta goes out with the DF A riders, Vendetta drops the whole group, DF group chases Vendetta, Vendetta gets away. But this time there is a twist. It was a beautiful Thursday night for the A ride at the local LBS. We started out with seven strong A riders on DFs and little ole me on my "Red Rocket" (as some call it). Since the days are getting shorter, the course was altered to get us home around sundown. So we didn't do the first big sprint - the first sprint on this ride ended up being one that is 11.5 miles from the last stop ahead sign. It is an uphill sprint by a park. As we approached the area where someone would normally jump, I kept an eye out, but no one jumped even as we approached at about 500 yards out. So I jumped and then one other guy jumped. He was close behind, but then he dropped as I approached the sign - he probably could tell that he wasn't going to be able to pass me in time. So I easily took the sign without having to have to work too much. Score: 1-0. Then I turned the corner and took off on a time trial to see if I could repeat last weeks performance and get the last two signs for a total score of 3-0. It would be 5 miles to the second sign from the first sign. And then it would be 6.5 miles from the second sign to the third and last sign. So I was riding along at my steady state pace and watching the A group in my mirrors. They had regrouped and were chasing me. I had to ride the red line. That means I had to put out enough power to stay away or even pull away, but I had to keep my power down far enough that I could go the 11.5 miles without blowing up. So I was riding the red line. At the same time, the A riders in the group were taking turns on the front. I could see each rider pull for a short time, then pull off and let a fresh rider on the front. So while I was maintaining a steady state with no recovery, each A rider was crossing the red line briefly and then recovering. After we had gone a couple of miles down the road, the turn came up. I went onto the other side of the road to give myself a very wide radius - that way I could maintain most of my speed and not have to hit the brakes at all. So I coasted, went onto the left side of the road, and took the turn at high speed. I straightened out and resumed pedaling and continued sailing on. I saw the group take the turn in my mirrors. Then they quickly reassembled the pack and resumed the chase. They were getting a little closer, but I was still pretty far out and was feeling good. I really had no idea if they could catch me or not - but they were working it hard and were gaining on me little by little. Then a different rider appeared coming in the opposite direction. We passed each other on our respective sides of the road and I recognized him. It was the pro athlete. Oh crap! I wondered if he would see the group chasing me and then turn around to help them catch me. Why would he do that? Well, payback I suppose. You see, a few weeks ago, on a big holiday ride of around 70 miles at the LBS, I passed this guy fast when he was pulling the group. The group was really big, since it was a holiday ride, so there might be some embarrassment involved. Actually, I buzzed him three different times when he was on the front of the big pack. The second and third times were at 43 mph with a little help from a slight decline in the road. Back to now: I went on for a minute, then I noticed the group was really gaining on me. I saw the front rider pull off and, behind him, was the pro athlete. I knew it! He was going to drag those guys right up my rear. Sure enough, they rode at a steady pace faster than mine and got right on my draft. Then the pro athlete passed me. I jumped a little to follow him and dropped the group, which was pretty exhausted from the extra effort it took to catch me. Now, I was following the pro athlete and we were getting near the second sign. He was positioned pretty high up in the air, because he is tall, and I didn't feel much of a draft. He was going well over 30 mph and I hung on for a while, but then I had to drop speed because I was over the red line and the sign was still too far out. So of course, he took the sign. Score: 1-1. He continued on and turned the next corner. He had slowed down and was probably recovering. So I maintained my steady state pace and blew by him. He chased me for a while and I was working hard to stay off. He was harder to outrun than the entire group of A riders. Then he closed the gap and passed me. His massive thighs made my legs look like sticks, or so I imagined. I tried to hang on again, but I was in the red for too long and had to drop speed again. I chased for quite a ways. Every once in a while, he would look back to see where I was, as if he was trying to maintain his distance. I got the feeling he was just toying with me. All this time, the A group, while still chasing us, was so far back that I couldn't see the group at all. I chased and chased. Then I started to gain on him. I was cruising along and got really close. He turned around to look and I was right there passing him at high speed - whoosh! He dwindled in my mirrors. He stood up and started sprinting. He was chasing me but I was able to stay off. A big downhill was coming up where I was usually able to drop any riders that were on my tail. I went over the hill crest, dropped down the hill, and he was right there at the same distance behind me, going as fast as I was. So the hill trick didn't work so well on this guy. My only other option was to toss some Kryptonite behind me - but I was fresh out. So I kept pushing the pedals and stayed off for a little bit, but then he gained on me as we approached the final curves. Then he passed me and maintained his passing speed. I jacked up my speed to match his, pushing me way into the red, and followed him at a distance to the sign. I gave it everything I had left, but he took the sign anyway. Score: 1-2. So just when you think you've finally become the baddest bike in the valley of the shadow of death, along comes Superman and puts you in your place. Keep in mind, this is only my first season on a V. So watch out Superman - "I'll be back" next season for Terminator vs. Superman. You've just given me my off-season motivation.
 
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DavidCH

In thought; expanding the paradigm of traversity
Having fun eh! I bet the rest of the A-team are wheezing! Guess the only way of beating superman is drafting off another V. You will have to entice another member of A team to convert;)
 

VenRiderGuy

Well-Known Member
I know this is getting boring. It's starting to be the same old story: Vendetta goes out with the DF A riders, Vendetta drops the whole group, DF group chases Vendetta, Vendetta gets away. But this time there is a twist. It was a beautiful Thursday night for the A ride at the local LBS. We started out with seven strong A riders on DFs and little ole me on my "Red Rocket" (as some call it). Since the days are getting shorter, the course was altered to get us home around sundown. So we didn't do the first big sprint - the first sprint on this ride ended up being one that is 11.5 miles from the last stop ahead sign. It is an uphill sprint by a park. As we approached the area where someone would normally jump, I kept an eye out, but no one jumped even as we approached at about 500 yards out. So I jumped and then one other guy jumped. He was close behind, but then he dropped as I approached the sign - he probably could tell that he wasn't going to be able to pass me in time. So I easily took the sign without having to have to work to much. Score: 1-0. Then I turned the corner and took off on a time trial to see if I could repeat last weeks performance and get the last two signs for a total score of 3-0. It would be 5 miles to the second sign from the first sign. And then it would be 6.5 miles from the second sign to the third and last sign. So I was riding along at my steady state pace and watching the A group in my mirrors. They had regrouped and were chasing me. I had to ride the red line. That means I had to put out enough power to stay away or even pull away, but I had to keep my power down far enough that I could go the 11.5 miles without blowing up. So I was riding the red line. At the same time, the A riders in the group were taking turns on the front. I could see each rider pull for a short time, then pull off and let a fresh rider on the front. So while I was maintaining a steady state with no recovery, each A rider was crossing the red line briefly and then recovering. After we had gone a couple of miles down the road, the turn came up. I went onto the other side of the road to give myself a very wide radius - that way I could maintain most of my speed and not have to hit the brakes at all. So I coasted, went onto the left side of the road, and took the turn at high speed. I straightened out and resumed pedaling and continued sailing on. I saw the group take the turn in my mirrors. Then they quickly reassembled the pack and resumed the chase. They were getting a little closer, but I was still pretty far out and was feeling good. I really had no idea if they could catch me or not - but they were working it hard and were gaining on me little by little. Then a different rider appeared coming in the opposite direction. We passed each other on our respective sides of the road and I recognized him. It was the pro athlete. Oh crap! I wondered if he would see the group chasing me and then turn around to help them catch me. Why would he do that? Well, payback I suppose. You see, a few weeks ago, on a big holiday ride of around 70 miles at the LBS, I passed this guy fast when he was pulling the group. The group was really big, since it was a holiday ride, so there might be some embarrassment involved. Actually, I buzzed him three different times when he was on the front of the big pack. The second and third times were at 43 mph with a little help from a slight decline in the road. Back to now: I went on for a minute, then I noticed the group was really gaining on me. I saw the front rider pull off and, behind him, was the pro athlete. I knew it! He was going to drag those guys right up my rear. Sure enough, they rode at a steady pace faster than mine and got right on my draft. Then the pro athlete passed me. I jumped a little to follow him and dropped the group, which was pretty exhausted from the extra effort it took to catch me. Now, I was following the pro athlete and we were getting near the second sign. He was positioned pretty high up in the air, because he is tall, and I didn't feel much of a draft. He was going well over 30 mph and I hung on for a while, but then I had to drop speed because I was over the red line and the sign was still too far out. So of course, he took the sign. Score: 1-1. He continued on and turned the next corner. He had slowed down and was probably recovering. So I maintained my steady state pace and blew by him. He chased me for a while and I was working hard to stay off. He was harder to outrun than the entire group of A riders. Then he closed the gap and passed me. His massive thighs made my legs look like sticks, or so I imagined. I tried to hang on again, but I was in the red for too long and had to drop speed again. I chased for quite a ways. Every once in a while, he would look back to see where I was, as if he was trying to maintain his distance. I got the feeling he was just toying with me. All this time, the A group, while still chasing us, was so far back that I couldn't see the group at all. I chased and chased. Then I started to gain on him. I was cruising along and got really close. He turned around to look and I was right there passing him at high speed - whoosh! He dwindled in my mirrors. He stood up and started sprinting. He was chasing me but I was able to stay off. A big downhill was coming up where I was usually able to drop any riders that were on my tail. I went over the hill crest, dropped down the hill, and he was right there at the same distance behind me, going as fast as I was. So the hill trick didn't work so well on this guy. My only other option was to toss some Kryptonite behind me - but I was fresh out. So I kept pushing the pedals and stayed off for a little bit, but then he gained on me as we approached the final curves. Then he passed me and maintained his passing speed. I jacked up my speed to match his, pushing me way into the red, and followed him at a distance to the sign. I gave it everything I had left, but he took the sign anyway. Score: 1-2. So just when you think you've finally become the baddest bike in the valley of the shadow of death, along comes Superman and puts you in your place. Keep in mind, this is only my first season on a V. So watch out Superman - "I'll be back" next season for Terminator vs. Superman. You've just given me my off-season motivation.

Joseph,

I really enjoy your writeups of your Thursday evening adventures....please keep them coming. From your narrative, it seems as if you are now riding a red Vendetta. From your earlier videos, I remember seeing a yellow Vendetta. Would you mind going on record about any noticeable differences and/or advantages of the red Vendetta?

Thanks......
 

JOSEPHWEISSERT

Zen MBB Master
Joseph,

I really enjoy your writeups of your Thursday evening adventures....please keep them coming. From your narrative, it seems as if you are now riding a red Vendetta. From your earlier videos, I remember seeing a yellow Vendetta. Would you mind going on record about any noticeable differences and/or advantages of the red Vendetta?

Thanks......
Well, I've only had the one red Vendetta, never a yellow one. And only this year. So I can't speak to the differences. Was the yellow one possibly in someone else's video? But thanks for the kind words.
 

JOSEPHWEISSERT

Zen MBB Master
Having fun eh! I bet the rest of the A-team are wheezing! Guess the only way of beating superman is drafting off another V. You will have to entice another member of A team to convert;)
Yes, I've been working on that. But I can't even convince anyone to go to short cranks, let alone switch to a V. Good thing I'm not in sales, or I would starve.
 

DavidCH

In thought; expanding the paradigm of traversity
Well, crank size does seem to be a very personal issue. I can understand for and against. Maria Parker is still using relatively large crank size but from her blog she is thinking of going downsize to 165. I would love to try 150's, I guess next time I get over to America I will head up to somewhere that can give me a 150 crank size trial on a V or S.

Even with my 170's I can rotate them at 103 rpm, but if I had 150's it would be easier to sustain the effort in rotating at 103 rpm. I guess the acceleration would be somewhat slower but at the end of the day it is top speed that counts and the amount of effort used to get there , which favours a smaller crank size.

Gearing to crank size ratio is more of an issue. Torque with big gears is easier to get away with with a larger crank size, but a smaller crank with big gears would probably be a show stopper.
 

VenRiderGuy

Well-Known Member
Well, I've only had the one red Vendetta, never a yellow one. And only this year. So I can't speak to the differences. Was the yellow one possibly in someone else's video? But thanks for the kind words.
Joe, of course you are right. And, looking at the videos again reminds me of why eyewitness accounts should not be taken as infallible. Disregard my bad memory, but please do keep your Thursday evening narratives coming. Thanks....
 

Tuloose

Guru
Great ride reports Joe.
And excellent writing skills too making it easy to follow along in the narrative.

My usual ride group is much more casual but a rider hunched over on his geek bars passed me today and I had to administer a Cruzbike spanking to the young pup.
A thing that always amuses me is seeing DF riders trying to get in an aero tuck with their clip on bars.
With their necks craned up at an unnatural angle, their elbows angled in across their chests hindering their lung capacity and their genitals smushed into the nose of their hard saddles they present quite a comical sight as I Cruz by, more aerodynamic by far and in total comfort.
 
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MrSteve

Zen MBB Master
My usual ride group is much more casual but a rider hunched over on his geek bars passed me today and had to administer a Cruzbike spanking to the young pup.
A thing that always amuses me is seeing DF riders trying to get in an aero tuck with their clip on bars.
With their necks craned up at an unnatural angle, their elbows angled in across their chests hindering their lung capacity and their genitals smushed into the nose of their hard saddles they present quite a comical sight as I Cruz by, more aerodynamic by far and in total comfort.

Enjoy the victories as they come, but beware.
There are many, many riders that can humble you deeply, should they choose to.

Like what the pair of club riders did to me a few years ago.
The old fast guy quickly disappeared over the horizon and the younger 'slow' guy
hung with me and remarked, not out of breath at all, "I thought recumbents were supposed to be fast?"
I politely gasped back, "Not this one."

Even when your name Is, JOSEPHWEISSERT, there's an Olympian out there gunning for you.

Still... it's fun, innit?
 
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