Rick Youngblood
CarbonCraft Master
Wow, look at the free spin on those babies, I got to have
Bottom Bracket Suggestions?
- Thread starter John Dorlon
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ratz
Wielder of the Rubber Mallet
Nice video but my gosh doing the install on the bike is nuts. Just remove the derailleur before you bend the hanger
John Dorlon
Guru
I'm still waiting for my XD15 to arrive, so the chain is off on my Silvio - so after seeing this, I gave my pulleys a spin - my Ultegra pulleys actually spin freely pretty well. I'm keeping them!Wow, look at the free spin on those babies, I got to have
John Dorlon
Guru
Funny - I thought something similar. Why is he trying to thread the chain through as he puts it together? Put the thing together and THEN thread the chain through! Sheesh!
John Dorlon
Guru
Well, I got the XD-15 installed on the V, and the V's old Ultegra bottom bracket moved to the Silvio. The XD-15 is very smooth and definitely spins easier than the Ultegra. I haven't taken it out for a 'real' ride yet, just a quick spin around the block to see how it felt. Felt good. Not sure if it feels $200 good, but whatever. I don't really have any regrets, I guess.
But here's the kicker - my Silvio still has the creak! I thought it was coming from the bottom bracket, but clearly I was wrong about that because I swapped that out. The cranks and pedals seem solid. I don't think it's coming from those. So I came home and put the bike on the trainer and started spinning the cranks by hand, while next to the bike. Hmm, sounds like it's coming from the headset from this angle. OK, so I took the top bolts and spacers off the headset - everything looks fine, put it back together, nice and tight. Still a little bit creaky, but not as much. I looked around and didn't see any cracks.
I keep using the word "creaky" to describe the sound - it's really something in between a creak and ticking sounds.
At this point, It doesn't seem like anything I need to be concerned about - just an annoyance. Anyone have any thoughts or ideas?
But here's the kicker - my Silvio still has the creak! I thought it was coming from the bottom bracket, but clearly I was wrong about that because I swapped that out. The cranks and pedals seem solid. I don't think it's coming from those. So I came home and put the bike on the trainer and started spinning the cranks by hand, while next to the bike. Hmm, sounds like it's coming from the headset from this angle. OK, so I took the top bolts and spacers off the headset - everything looks fine, put it back together, nice and tight. Still a little bit creaky, but not as much. I looked around and didn't see any cracks.
I keep using the word "creaky" to describe the sound - it's really something in between a creak and ticking sounds.
At this point, It doesn't seem like anything I need to be concerned about - just an annoyance. Anyone have any thoughts or ideas?
John Dorlon
Guru
Oh, while I had the chain off I noticed that ONE pulley spun great and the other was slow. So I removed the slow one, took it apart, cleaned it up, put it back together (used a little Hob-E-Lub graphite in there for a dry lubricant - it's really good stuff). Got that slow spinning pulley in good shape. Not quite as good as its brother, but a definite improvement.
ratz
Wielder of the Rubber Mallet
You have a loose spoke. Whenever you can't find a creak and it happens under power; it's always a stupid loose spoke. I have a t-shirt that proves it.
ratz
Wielder of the Rubber Mallet
When it still spins like that after 3 years of hard riding it will feel $400 good. But that's the battle on that one it take time to see in not degrade after 1000's of miles. I was doing some swap outs this spring and my main XD-15 is on it's 3rd frame Silvio --> Yellow V --> V20 and it's still Day 1 perfect.
RAR
Well-Known Member
What trplaysaid...I had the exact same thing happen!
John Dorlon
Guru
Hmm, good idea, and it was something I hadn't checked yet, but they all seem tight and they all sing when I pluck them. I don't think it's a spoke.
Oooh, that could be it! When I had it on the trainer and was spinning the pedals from the side, it did seem to be coming from that area. And it did seem to help a little when I took that off and reassembled. Thanks, I'll give that a shot.
ReklinedRider
Zen MBB Master
I had perhaps the same sound on the V awhile ago. BB ok, greased the bolts on boom/slider clamps and re-tightened, even a light coating of grease on the inside of the clamps themselves, did the same on steerer tube clamp, checked spokes, still creaked. Finally in desperation took things apart enough to tighten down the bolt that goes to the star nut some more. Reassembled, front fork still turned freely. Rode it. Creak/ticking gone. Hope it doesn't come back.
John Dorlon
Guru
I had to google to find out what a Star Nut was. I hope I don't have to go down that far.
ratz
Wielder of the Rubber Mallet
Walking away from the joke.... walking .... walking..... running .... Dam it .... ahhhhhhhhhh. phew made it.
ReklinedRider
Zen MBB Master
It's kind of a pain alright. But if you exhaust all other options....
Rick Youngblood
CarbonCraft Master
ratz
Wielder of the Rubber Mallet
Four possible errors can cause no spin, check for these:
- Chain stay cup clamps are too tight; (Tight hand tight where a 5inch long allen wrench starts to bend; then back off ¼ turn)
- Crank spindle was tightened beyond the torque spec
- Wave washer wasn't install on the drive side; and/or plastic spacers were incorrectly added to the non drive side.
- MTB cup spacers where used between the BB-Shell (aka the frame) and the BB-Bearing-Cups on error.
DavidCH
In thought; expanding the paradigm of traversity
Ok... Perhaps I will try this. How far were your couple of rides? Perhaps 200km?
My new ceramic BB spins but not anything like in the video. The thought of taking it apart is not appealing but I don't mind going for a couple of rides. I think it's just greased up and needs a bit of a vroom to get it all singing and dancing.
super slim
Zen MBB Master
Dave, get the tools and use this detailed forum to do it like a PRO!!!
