Getting Off the Fence

GetBent

Well-Known Member
Using an indoor trainer does have some advantages. It allowed me to finally get around to remapping the shift patterns of the Di2 synchroshift. The new shift pattern works great going up, but it will not allow me to use the shift pattern that I want when down shifting. It forces me to go all the way down to the second lowest gear before it down shifts from the large chain ring. Typically, when I upshift to the large chain ring, I need to immediately downshift 3 cogs on the cassette. The Di2 now can do that for me. Too bad it will not do that for me when downshifting.

There is another mode which will downshift one gear on the cassette when upshifting to the large chain ring, and upshift one gear when downshifting to the small chain ring. That works, but I really need the up and down shifting on the cassette to be 3 cogs.

Another mode is multishift. I programed it to shift 3 cogs. So now when I up or down shift the chainring, I can just press and hold the up/down button to automatically shift 3 cogs. This is also great to quickly downshift when coming to a stop.

The last thing I did was to reprogram the up/down shift buttons. Now they are more consistent, and make more sense to me. Now on both brifters, the higher button upshifts, and the lower button down shifts. Of course old habits die hard - it is taking a bit to get used to the new system.
 

GetBent

Well-Known Member
The Wahoo Key and the 30 pin to Lightening adapter arrived. Everything connected, nothing works. Maybe the cable is bad, or maybe there is a setting on the iPhone I do not know about. Will continue to try...

The idea is to connect the existing cadence sensor and pulse sensor to iPhone via the Wahoo Key using ANT+.
 

Don1

Guru
Gotta use apple for apple... Even then good luck. Or get a ant+ to ble thing.... Eg see North Pole engineering a product called cable for $60...
 

paco1961

Zen MBB Master
I used the wahoo 30 pin dongle on iPhone 4 when you could plug the dongle directly in to the phone port. Worked like a charm. No idea why adding a cable connector should be a problem
 

GetBent

Well-Known Member
The Wahoo cadence and speed sensors arrived. They are a little smaller than the Sigma sensors, but what is really nice is that they do not require magnets. No more accidently bumping them out of alignment. The speed sensor straps to hub, and the cadence sensor is mounted to the non drive side crank arm. Very simple. The sensors output both Bluetooth and ANT+.

Both sensors connected easily to the iPhone SE, but would not connect to the Sigma computer. AKKK! So the only way to use both the computer and the iPhone is to use both sets of sensors. Not really what I want.

So, knowing what I know now, I probably would have gotten the Wahoo computer and sensors. Why? Because I like the magnet less sensors, and I would be able to use the same sensors for both the iPhone and the computer. But, at that time I was not thinking about breaking an ankle and using an indoor trainer for physical therapy.....
 

cpml123

Zen MBB Master
The Wahoo cadence and speed sensors arrived. They are a little smaller than the Sigma sensors, but what is really nice is that they do not require magnets. No more accidently bumping them out of alignment. The speed sensor straps to hub, and the cadence sensor is mounted to the non drive side crank arm. Very simple. The sensors output both Bluetooth and ANT+.

Both sensors connected easily to the iPhone SE, but would not connect to the Sigma computer. AKKK! So the only way to use both the computer and the iPhone is to use both sets of sensors. Not really what I want.

So, knowing what I know now, I probably would have gotten the Wahoo computer and sensors. Why? Because I like the magnet less sensors, and I would be able to use the same sensors for both the iPhone and the computer. But, at that time I was not thinking about breaking an ankle and using an indoor trainer for physical therapy.....

I recently got a Garmin computer for birthday and now have a used Wahoo Mini and Wahoo Bolt. Let me know if you are interested in either. I am planning to post them for sale in the spring.

Thanks,

Michael
 

Bill K

Guru
Both sensors connected easily to the iPhone SE, but would not connect to the Sigma computer.
Just a thought, DC Rainmaker's review of their top-end model says they will be adding support soon (2018).
See if there is a firmware upgrade that supports your Sigma. Its a long shot, but worth a try.
 

GetBent

Well-Known Member
Hobbling around without the walker now. Foot/ankle still swollen and painful. Can not comfortably get my cycling shoes on. Doubtful that I will be on the road with the "V" this summer, but will continue using it with the indoor trainer. Gained 10 pounds sitting around. So far, have dropped 2 pounds using the "V" on the indoor trainer. Ugh! 8 to go.

Just got a trike, a used Wind Cheetah. My thought process is that I will not need to put my feet down when I stop or start. I managed a 4 mile ride yesterday. Pedaling was OK, but the jarring from bumps was painful. It is more fun that I thought. I have to be more careful, I am pretty sure I can roll this thing if I turn too fast. The Wind Cheetah is "eccentrically British". It has not have handle bar, but instead uses a joy stick. It has left hand steering, and the left hand controls the RD, the right the FD. Also, moving the shift lever down up shifts, and visa versa. Currently trying to figure out how to mount lights, mirror, water bottle, computer and tool bag.

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3WHELZ

Guru
Below are a couple pics of my WC. Hopefully, they are of use to you with regards to the water bottle cages. Sorry, I cannot offer assistance with ideas associated with tool storage or the mirror mounting. I use the rear fairing for storage and the front fairing has left mounted mirror (surprising given its British lineage). The front fairing is still in a wardrobe moving box along with portions of my S40. 15848265495211363502753405034646.jpg 1584826591354795329204067716427.jpg
 
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GetBent

Well-Known Member
Wow! Very nice. Too bad the company went under. I would love to have a rear fairing.

Thanks for the photos. That looks like a good spot for the water bottles.

Is there a WC user group?
 

super slim

Zen MBB Master
Hobbling around without the walker now. Foot/ankle still swollen and painful. Can not comfortably get my cycling shoes on. Doubtful that I will be on the road with the "V" this summer, but will continue using it with the indoor trainer. Gained 10 pounds sitting around. So far, have dropped 2 pounds using the "V" on the indoor trainer. Ugh! 8 to go.

Just got a trike, a used Wind Cheetah. My thought process is that I will not need to put my feet down when I stop or start. I managed a 4 mile ride yesterday. Pedaling was OK, but the jarring from bumps was painful. It is more fun that I thought. I have to be more careful, I am pretty sure I can roll this thing if I turn too fast. The Wind Cheetah is "eccentrically British". It has not have handle bar, but instead uses a joy stick. It has left hand steering, and the left hand controls the RD, the right the FD. Also, moving the shift lever down up shifts, and visa versa. Currently trying to figure out how to mount lights, mirror, water bottle, computer and tool bag.

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The trike looks stunning!!

To soften the bumpy ride increase you tyre size to 20"*2" and run at the min tyre pressure of 35 psi, that is much greater than the 16 psi recommended by Heine, for a 80 kg rider+ 17 kg trike with equal load on all three wheels.
http://www.adventurecycling.org/default/assets/resources/200903_PSIRX_Heine.pdf

If using 20"*40 mm, then 26 psi recommended, but the minimum Schwalbe tyre pressure is 50 psi, so run at 50 psi.
 

GetBent

Well-Known Member
Thanks. Great idea, especially since I am having trouble finding tubes for the tires that came with it. So far I like it, and will probable get rid of my commuter bike in favor of the Wind Cheetah. Still, I would rather be on the "V'.
 

3WHELZ

Guru
Is here a WC user group?

Occasionally, you can find someone on Bentrider.com's Message Board selling WC parts. You may want to check it out occasionally. I purchased some spares from Burrows before they closed shop.

I softened ride up front, but I prefer running the rear at 100 psi. At higher speed you can drift around the corners. It is wild sensation at first. I once had it up to 52 mph, down hill on straight course. Unlikely, I will ever do that again! :eek:

Enjoy your new ride. My WC became dust collector once I began riding a CB Silvio. It is now my backup solo ride.
 

3bs

whereabouts unknown
they are cool. but that steering i could never do. i need something to pull against when climbing. i am trying to figure a dead stick on the right of my slr for that purpose
 

BikeCollector

New Member
The Wind Cheetah is "eccentrically British". It has not have handle bar, but instead uses a joy stick. It has left hand steering, and the left hand controls the RD, the right the FD. Also, moving the shift lever down up shifts, and visa versa. Currently trying to figure out how to mount lights, mirror, water bottle, computer and tool bag.

On my Windcheetah, I have a standard bottle cage bolted to the underside of the seat. It takes a little practice to grab the bottle and re-insert it, but you quickly notice that holding the bottle "pro rider" style with the nozzle facing down comes naturally with this position and actually helps when drinking. So I am very satisfied with this solution. Works best with big bottles (750ml) because that gives you more area to grab and hold the bottle.
I will probably add a second bottle cage on the left for longer tours this summer. So far my Windcheetah (bike #7 in my current collection) has only been used for short recreational fun rides of up to 3 hours.
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BikeCollector

New Member
Currently trying to figure out how to mount lights, mirror, water bottle, computer and tool bag.

About the computer mount: my first solution was a hand-made pole attached to the boom with cable ties, in front of my food pouch. But I dismissed this because the Edge 800 was too far away for good visibility and very hard to operate. I transferred it to the steering tiller with the help of a Garmin Varia radar seat post mount (Garmin part #010-10644-11). Not the optimal orientation I would have liked, but sturdy, much easier to operate, and does not interfere with steering and shifting.

For the mirror, I tried several variations of attaching different Zefal mirror models to the struts of the left fender but eventually dismissed that because the big ones were too heavy and vibrated a lot and the small ones did not give me enough information to feel comfortable. I finally settled for a Busch+Müller CycleStar 901, also attached to the tiller. In addition, I am riding with a helmet mounted Zefal Z Eye mirror. I am using that helmet mirror on all of my bikes. The combination of both mirrors and the fact that the rear view can be virtually extended by moving mirror and/or head, does the job nicely.

A loud bell which can be operated by the pinky finger of my right hand completes the tiller accessories.

My tools are in the rear fairing (microtool, tire levers, patch kit, Lezyne Micro Floor Pump, and one front and one rear tire). Food goes in the pouch on the boom.

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GetBent

Well-Known Member
Thanks! The photos are a huge help. I think you came up with some great solutions. I put the front light on using the holes in the bottom bracket. I used a handle bar mounted water bottle holder bracket. I used the side that is supposed to attach to a water bottle holder to attach to the bottom bracket, then the part that is supposed to attach to the handle bars is used to hold a tube that the light bracket attaches to. Sounds messy, but actually looks good, as long as you are not a mechanic or machinist.

As for the "V", I ride virtual rides using Kinomap on a Wahoo Kicker Snap when the weather is bad, meaning more time on the "V" than on the WC. I think I will use this down time to to a few upgrades. I am thinking of getting a shorter chain stay to lower the BB height, but I am a little afraid it will raise the handle bars too much. From what I can figure from this forum, that will make me a little less aero, but will calm down the steering. I am also considering an upgraded headrest.
 

GetBent

Well-Known Member
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Good thing I went to take photos tonight. One of the bolts holding the water bottle bracket to the bottom bracket has disappeared. I have been sticking to bike trails, which near where I live are gravel, so I guess I shook it loose. Amazing.
 
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