I sense a disturbance in the 3rd Law

barry surely it moves when you ride over any uneven surface???? how do you know it does not move???

if i did not have scissor jacks in then even the act of picking up the bike would have the headrest move???

or have i merely misunderstood......................doh
It doesn't move when I ride but if I try to pick it up by the headrest it moves. The way my head presses the metal bars into the frame creates which enough friction to stop it moving.
 

super slim

Zen MBB Master
Jenson USA just sent an email on new product, and guess what one of the items was?????

SRAM RED eTAP
In-Stock and Ready to Ship

I am guessing that you had orders with at least a dozen suppliers!!!

So when are the next photos being published, as from the install video, it SHOULD only take 10 minutes to install!
 
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ratz

Wielder of the Rubber Mallet
My order says: NOTE: This order has already shipped or has reached the final stages of processing. Therefore this order is no longer editable.

:eek:

The direct cause of this was that I ordered some Rival Groupos so I could move on to the handle bar phase... Had to rush and cancel those when I saw your message and checked my order status !:D

I might accidentally have 2 orders open so if someone else wanted a set you could PM tonight and I won't cancel the redundant order you can have my place in line
 

ratz

Wielder of the Rubber Mallet
Aw man, what is this; they no longer can "ship by plane" goods with Batteries in the USA. Where's the logic in that? It's not like the passenger compartment is full to the brim with 4 lithium ion batteries per passenger. My goodness we are a silly country sometimes.

Looks like we'll be lucky to have parts by Monday.
 

ratz

Wielder of the Rubber Mallet
Fortunately, Mrs Ratz is well trained. The supplier called to make sure we really wanted two sets on Sunday; and then again today to ask if Ground shipping was ok; implying we might actually cancel them she just laughed at them with the "ya right".

Then the sales guy just about wet himself that this chick was buying qty 2 of the most wanted groupsets shipping Those boys at JensonUsa do like their bikes.
 

jond

Zen MBB Master
Fortunately, Mrs Ratz is well trained. The supplier called to make sure we really wanted two sets on Sunday; and then again today to ask if Ground shipping was ok; implying we might actually cancel them she just laughed at them with the "ya right".

i reckon you could sell a set on ebay for a lot more than the retail. but they are worth a lot more on your bike of course. :)

i have only seen one set in the wild. people are wringing their hands waiting. impatiently.
 

ratz

Wielder of the Rubber Mallet
i reckon you could sell a set on ebay for a lot more than the retail. but they are worth a lot more on your bike of course. :)

i have only seen one set in the wild. people are wringing their hands waiting. impatiently.

I agree

I fully expect to wind up with 2 extra sets that I will offer up here at what I paid for them; the tribe should benefit from the many many hours I stalked the online stores to figure out who'd take an order. After that if nobody I know wants them I'll ebay them for a small gain.
 

super slim

Zen MBB Master
Aw man, what is this; they no longer can "ship by plane" goods with Batteries in the USA. Where's the logic in that? It's not like the passenger compartment is full to the brim with 4 lithium ion batteries per passenger. My goodness we are a silly country sometimes.

Looks like we'll be lucky to have parts by Monday.

The batteries are Lithium Ion POLYMER, which are the ones that have already caused fires on planes, as are used ON the plane for battery back up, as they have a very high 200 whr/kg, 200 recharges (20,000 km of riding) $40 replacement, compared to Lithium Ferric Phosphate of 115 Whr/kg (E Bike batteries) 2,000 recharges.

Sram would have a good strong case around the Li-PO battery, so the chance of damaging the battery, and starting a fire is minimal.

I think that Sram would have tested the charger VERY well!
The biggest danger is during charging, if the charger does not shut down correctly when the battery is fully charged.
If they reach 150 C, there is a thermal run away, and fire.

Use a GOOD quality LiPo battery bag when charging. NOT like this one!

This is a good LiPo bag
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__4364__Lithium_Polymer_Charge_Pack_25x33cm_JUMBO_Sack.html
 

ratz

Wielder of the Rubber Mallet
Use a GOOD quality LiPo battery bag when charging. NOT like this one!

Still one has to wonder what risk they pose in a box in the cargo hold. I did read the Registry doc from the US government (my day job has some intersects with those dam publications). It basically allows for the shipping of the battery goods as part of a larger product; but not in bulk. But it looks like the testing required to prove your product is in that class is rather expensive and arduous. I am guessing SRAM simply doesn't have the budget to get the right label approval. Simply taking the voluntary low rating to be done with it. This would also explain why it's taking forever to get from Distribution to the shops; everything is going by boat and truck.
 

super slim

Zen MBB Master
If you gave your location in Furlongs, they might be sending the E taps by horse and cart!!!
In "Down- Under" Furlongs have only been used for Horse Racing distances!
 

super slim

Zen MBB Master
Still one has to wonder what risk they pose in a box in the cargo hold. I did read the Registry doc from the US government (my day job has some intersects with those dam publications). It basically allows for the shipping of the battery goods as part of a larger product; but not in bulk. But it looks like the testing required to prove your product is in that class is rather expensive and arduous. I am guessing SRAM simply doesn't have the budget to get the right label approval. Simply taking the voluntary low rating to be done with it. This would also explain why it's taking forever to get from Distribution to the shops; everything is going by boat and truck.

Li PO batteries are used a LOT for radio controlled planes as they are 1/2 the weight of any other battery of the same power!
Just use a Fireproof bag when charging.
 
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