New Buyer Advice - S40 versus Q45?

Black Hawk Down

Senior Rookie
Any update on this thread? I too suffer from recumbutt on my s40. I replaced the stock seat with a Thor Carrier seat and I think it made it worse as I sit up even more. I did lots of padding variations. I don't even ride it anymore after doing an 11K mile tour. I've been considering the Q45 for my next tour (18K miles), but Cruzbike doesn't sell the frame separately like they do for the V20 and S40. I don't want any of the components of the Q45, nor the tires/wheels. So I would have to buy the whole bike and throw away everything but the frame. Not a great option. If I could get my S40 to work without recumbutt, I'd be happy with it.
 

cpml123

Zen MBB Master
Any update on this thread? I too suffer from recumbutt on my s40. I replaced the stock seat with a Thor Carrier seat and I think it made it worse as I sit up even more. I did lots of padding variations. I don't even ride it anymore after doing an 11K mile tour. I've been considering the Q45 for my next tour (18K miles), but Cruzbike doesn't sell the frame separately like they do for the V20 and S40. I don't want any of the components of the Q45, nor the tires/wheels. So I would have to buy the whole bike and throw away everything but the frame. Not a great option. If I could get my S40 to work without recumbutt, I'd be happy with it.
How about buying a used Q45, put the Thor seat on, and adjust the seat angle to lower than 40 deg?
 

Black Hawk Down

Senior Rookie
I've looked at used Q45's. They were too old and too expensive. I would like the latest model with all the improvements. I may be forced to buy a new one and throw away all the components and wheels. That would be a shame.
 

woodguy

Well-Known Member
Don’t throw the components & wheels away. Post them here for sale. Maybe someone like me who has the original Q45 would like to upgrade with new stuff If the price is right.
 

Flying Dutchman

Well-Known Member
I agree that the Q45 should have a frame-only option like the S40 and V20. I just upgraded the wheels to tubeless 700C (gravel) and SRAM GX Eagle 12 speed and both upgrades make a massive difference.
Anyone want to buy a Microshift 11-speed and some 650 wheels ;-) (BTW UK only)
 

aldousjim

New Member
Hello Cruzbike community.

I have been watching and reading about Cruzbikes for several years, ever since visiting a great guy named Gary at his shop, NW Recumbent Bikes in northern Idaho.

I have been tucking away gift money for a long time, and I'm hoping 2024 is the year I finally get to join the CB crowd with my own bike. But now that the moment seems close, I find myself torn between the S40 and the Q45. So I'm hoping if I give you a little background about my riding, some of you might offer me some input on which bike might best meet my riding preferences.

I very recently retired and currently own both a traditional road bike and a decent full suspension mountain bike. I enjoy getting out on flowy single track a few times a summer, but I am not a thrill seeker when trail riding. I expect to keep riding my traditional mountain bike for those kinds of experiences, at least for the next several years.

Most of my riding is on my road bike, and primarily on a few paved trails in my area of rural northern Idaho. I enjoy both shorter, hard & fast bike workouts and also building up my endurance to do longer rides. I'm motivated by keeping data on distance, average speed, cadence and such, and I really enjoy feeling like I am improving on my average cruising speed, especially on longer rides. I have done several century rides in support of Bike MS, and have always had a goal to someday do Seattle To Portland as a one day ride. And I would love to get into multiple day rides soon, perhaps even to ride across the U.S.

I often ride with a friend of mine who only has one bike, which could probably be described as a hybrid bike; with drop handlebars but wider tires that allow him and his wife to also ride on converted gravel Rails-To-Trails. And where I live there are also many, many miles of beautiful country gravel roads that could also be explored.

I can probably only afford to pick one CruzBike to purchase, at least for the foreseeable future. So I find myself torn between getting the S40 that I KNOW I would love pushing my limits on to see how fast and far I can go without the pressure point discomforts of my traditional road bike. But I would also love to get further off the beaten path and away from the noise and danger of car traffic.

So I am seeking input on which machine I might be able to hit more of the types of riding I would like to enjoy. Is it possible to affordably get and fit a second, wider set of wheels and tires on an S40, that would allow me to feel in control handling it on packed gravel roads and trails? Or might I be better off with the comfort of the Q45's suspension and wider tires, and perhaps buy a narrower set of wheels and higher pressure tires for when I want to go faster and longer on the pavement? I know from the bike info that the Q45 "off the shelf" weighs about 4.5 pounds more than the S40, which I am guessing I would feel; particularly on climbs. But I also weigh about 220 pounds and I often wonder if a few pounds on a bike really makes that big an impact when there is room to "lighten the load" on myself. ???

Perhaps other factors I have not touched on or even considered when trying to make this choice?


If you have slogged your way to the end of this long message for a brand new member to the forum, THANK YOU for taking the time to read it (and hopefully) offer me any insights you might be willing to share with me. Have a good one.
Hi, I am seeing this late. I am new to recumbent myself but went with the S40 since I spend most of my time is on paved roads. Just curious, which model did you end up with and how is the riding going? I still occasionally struggle with good starts at busy intersections.
 

Black Hawk Down

Senior Rookie
Would love to see the Q45 sold as a frameset like the other models.
I've been telling Maria and Robert for over a year that I would buy a frameset if they sold it. I assume that there's not enough demand or margin for it. I personally don't see a reason for the S40 as the Q45 can fit that bill better.
 
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