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Both bikes handle just fine the suspension works well on both bikes. I feel more stretched out on the Silvio but that might be the 451 wheels. I did a 45 mile ride on the Silvio today and plan on doing the same ride on the Quest next week. I should know more then. Jack

Heres a few shots.The Quest is kind of a mini Silvio. Everything on the Quest works just fine the only change I made was to turn the handlebars down and clip less pedals.I get no recumbent butt,neck,shoulder or wrist pain. Great job John. Jack

I will be in Chula Vista for most of april.You can try it out then.

Have done 2 rides so far and I really like this bike.Its as low as the Silvio and as fast as the IN Trek conversion. I haven't gone up any steep long hills yet but the gearing should be plenty low.I cant wait to mix it up with the mini-velos and the faster 20 in folders.The wheels were a little...

The Quest is a great bike. I will have something about my 451 up soon. Jack

I usually ride around 15-17 mph sometimes faster on both the Trek conversion and Silvio. Jack

451 I want to give these a try first.

:D :D Should be riding on wed. Jack

So how is the 20 in speed compared to other 20 in bikes? I got passed today by a Bike Friday on the bike path and he was moving out. Some of the high end folders are pretty fast.Dont know if I should order a 20 or 26.

23 Gatorskins.Didn't hit anything when the tire went flat checked the tube and found 2 holes.

Got one today first one on Silvio. Pumped up the tire to 100 lbs in morning hit a bad ledge in driveway then 10 miles later front tire was flat.I think 120 might be better now. Turning bike upside down makes getting the wheel off a breeze. Jack

Nice going Tom. Mark is right I have no interest in doing centuries 50 or 60 is plenty for me.Are you guys riding Seal beach in 2 weeks I will be there. Jack

Re: seat angle? Thanks Nanda I should have one here in So. Cal soon. Jack

Will it adjust to 45 degrees? The Silvio angle is perfect to me. Jack

Lower bikes are also more fun to ride.

I think the top tube is ok.The 17in frame is pretty big so the seat can wont be too far forward.

I just measured my bikes and the top tubes from front of seatpost to back of headtube is around 19in. also wheelbase 39-41in. these are small or med. frames. There are plenty of small bikes out there that will work.You will be ok if you can do most of your own work . The thing I like about...

Looks ok to me. Jack

I now have around 400 miles on this set up and dont see any downside. The steel bars might be a little heavy but dont flex at all.I can also rotate them in any direction for a perfect bike fit. Combine that with the super adjustable Silvio stem what more can you want? Jack :D

Put some Wald 8095 steel touring bars on the Silvio.The touring bars are 22in wide. I also changed to Sram rocket gripshift. Pictures next week. Jack