My new S40! First impression and a few questions

kizarmynot

Well-Known Member
Nearly a year to the day after taking my first ride on a Q45 I now own an S40 and took it out for a first ride. My first impression? Wow!

Taking a step (or two) back, I purchased my Q to address the common discomforts of riding a DF bike. These discomforts have been increasing due to age and (unfortunately) arthritis in a few places. Add on to that some problems that occurred after back surgery many years ago, and I'm left with some physical constraints I've learned to deal with. The Q has been everything I was looking for when I initially purchased a Cruzbike. But, it is not a road bike (even with 700c tires and the shock replaced with a metal rod).

My biggest concern with the S40 was the seat angle. In general, my back does not like angles (just look at my car seat or favorite comfy chair at home). When I had it on a trainer to work on the fit I was worried because it was not comfortable. My concerns went away as soon as I started pedaling outside – my back was happy! It took about 2 minutes to see there are differences to the Q45 but in general I was confident I could ride on a street. 10 miles and a few short hills later, I am REALLY looking forward to longer road rides.

A few questions.

I find that the material on the neck rest isn't very comfortable. Is this something that will get more comfortable over time (break-in period), or should I add something to it? If the latter, what have folks found that works well?

I will probably tweak the handlebar angle a bit, but the thing I'm most curious about is the location of the brifters. I expect that the majority of the time is spent on the “drops” (it was for me during the first ride). If that's the case, my not put the brifters there? Am I missing something?

Finally, SRAM double-tap. This was my the first time using it. I can see the benefit from using a single shifter, but if I'm grasping for an easier gear does it make sense to move the shifter two clicks instead of one?

A final finally – A word of thanks to the Cruzbike team. I was pleasantly surprised to find the level of pre-assembly that went into the 6th gen S40 before taking it apart for boxing. The derailleur and brakes were spot on – no adjustments necessary! I also appreciate having a spare derailleur hanger in the parts bag. THANK YOU!

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cpml123

Zen MBB Master
Nearly a year to the day after taking my first ride on a Q45 I now own an S40 and took it out for a first ride. My first impression? Wow!

Taking a step (or two) back, I purchased my Q to address the common discomforts of riding a DF bike. These discomforts have been increasing due to age and (unfortunately) arthritis in a few places. Add on to that some problems that occurred after back surgery many years ago, and I'm left with some physical constraints I've learned to deal with. The Q has been everything I was looking for when I initially purchased a Cruzbike. But, it is not a road bike (even with 700c tires and the shock replaced with a metal rod).

My biggest concern with the S40 was the seat angle. In general, my back does not like angles (just look at my car seat or favorite comfy chair at home). When I had it on a trainer to work on the fit I was worried because it was not comfortable. My concerns went away as soon as I started pedaling outside – my back was happy! It took about 2 minutes to see there are differences to the Q45 but in general I was confident I could ride on a street. 10 miles and a few short hills later, I am REALLY looking forward to longer road rides.

A few questions.

I find that the material on the neck rest isn't very comfortable. Is this something that will get more comfortable over time (break-in period), or should I add something to it? If the latter, what have folks found that works well?

I will probably tweak the handlebar angle a bit, but the thing I'm most curious about is the location of the brifters. I expect that the majority of the time is spent on the “drops” (it was for me during the first ride). If that's the case, my not put the brifters there? Am I missing something?

Finally, SRAM double-tap. This was my the first time using it. I can see the benefit from using a single shifter, but if I'm grasping for an easier gear does it make sense to move the shifter two clicks instead of one?

A final finally – A word of thanks to the Cruzbike team. I was pleasantly surprised to find the level of pre-assembly that went into the 6th gen S40 before taking it apart for boxing. The derailleur and brakes were spot on – no adjustments necessary! I also appreciate having a spare derailleur hanger in the parts bag. THANK YOU!

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So good to hear you are enjoying your S40.

Regarding your brifter, I feel it's too tilted up. I only put my hands in the drop position. Here is the picture. Pardon the background mess. :)
 

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kizarmynot

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the picture. Don’t worry about the mess, I was zooming in on the bike.
I like your rear bottle holders. I may consider that in the future.
what is plugged into your handlebar ends?
Thanks again!
 

Beano

Well-Known Member
I found the neck rest material okay, where have you got it resting against? I find for me it is at the base of skull just below where at the back of your head your skull starts to protrude, try there instead to see if that works.

Most important thing about the brifters and handlebar is to make sure that at first your wrist in a neutral position. When grabbing the bar naturally there should be no bend between your hand and forearm. Once you have the angle of the handlebar dialed in for this then adjust the brifters accordingly.

Enjoy your new ride.
 

jrs665

Member
Nearly a year to the day after taking my first ride on a Q45 I now own an S40 and took it out for a first ride. My first impression? Wow!

Taking a step (or two) back, I purchased my Q to address the common discomforts of riding a DF bike. These discomforts have been increasing due to age and (unfortunately) arthritis in a few places. Add on to that some problems that occurred after back surgery many years ago, and I'm left with some physical constraints I've learned to deal with. The Q has been everything I was looking for when I initially purchased a Cruzbike. But, it is not a road bike (even with 700c tires and the shock replaced with a metal rod).

My biggest concern with the S40 was the seat angle. In general, my back does not like angles (just look at my car seat or favorite comfy chair at home). When I had it on a trainer to work on the fit I was worried because it was not comfortable. My concerns went away as soon as I started pedaling outside – my back was happy! It took about 2 minutes to see there are differences to the Q45 but in general I was confident I could ride on a street. 10 miles and a few short hills later, I am REALLY looking forward to longer road rides.

A few questions.

I find that the material on the neck rest isn't very comfortable. Is this something that will get more comfortable over time (break-in period), or should I add something to it? If the latter, what have folks found that works well?

I will probably tweak the handlebar angle a bit, but the thing I'm most curious about is the location of the brifters. I expect that the majority of the time is spent on the “drops” (it was for me during the first ride). If that's the case, my not put the brifters there? Am I missing something?

Finally, SRAM double-tap. This was my the first time using it. I can see the benefit from using a single shifter, but if I'm grasping for an easier gear does it make sense to move the shifter two clicks instead of one?

A final finally – A word of thanks to the Cruzbike team. I was pleasantly surprised to find the level of pre-assembly that went into the 6th gen S40 before taking it apart for boxing. The derailleur and brakes were spot on – no adjustments necessary! I also appreciate having a spare derailleur hanger in the parts bag. THANK YOU!

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Tip: If you press the shifter for 3 clicks, will change down 2 gears instead of one. If it will only click twice, you know you changed into 1st gear.

Recently got an S40, my 1st recumbent bike and love it. Just riding it around the neighborhood at the moment till get more confident with it for longer trips. I find the dynamic headrest not as good as the default one though.
 
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kizarmynot

Well-Known Member
Thanks @Beano. I'll try to get a picture taken of my neck position to see where it is situated. I know that the back strap of my helmet sits just above the neck rest.

@cpml123 , I have similar things (I believe called Togs) for an MTB. I may be able to get them to work on this bar because I can see the benefit after a longer ride today.

@jrs665 , I'll give the standard neck rest a try.

As for the ride today, I ventured out for 25 miles split between a local bike path and quiet roads. Prior to setting out I adjusted the handlebar to get a much better wrist position. I am now getting the hang of the SRAM shifting and also the position of the brifter on the bar. Most surprising is that there is no recumbutt pain. As I mentioned in a post about a recent bike trip, the pain in a fairly upright position on my Q was almost unbearable towards the end. I am now hopeful I can get the seat to a position where it will either be eliminated or be much more manageable during my next trip in a few weeks.
Also, climbing in a more reclined position feels much better than I expected and I am faster than on my Q (even with 700c tires and a metal rod in place of the shock). Interesting that @jrs665 made a similar observation regarding seat angle in this post.

One last thing - does anyone else picture themselves doing a "Froomey" when sitting upright trying to get a better view at an intersection?
 
Nearly a year to the day after taking my first ride on a Q45 I now own an S40 and took it out for a first ride. My first impression? Wow!

Taking a step (or two) back, I purchased my Q to address the common discomforts of riding a DF bike. These discomforts have been increasing due to age and (unfortunately) arthritis in a few places. Add on to that some problems that occurred after back surgery many years ago, and I'm left with some physical constraints I've learned to deal with. The Q has been everything I was looking for when I initially purchased a Cruzbike. But, it is not a road bike (even with 700c tires and the shock replaced with a metal rod).

My biggest concern with the S40 was the seat angle. In general, my back does not like angles (just look at my car seat or favorite comfy chair at home). When I had it on a trainer to work on the fit I was worried because it was not comfortable. My concerns went away as soon as I started pedaling outside – my back was happy! It took about 2 minutes to see there are differences to the Q45 but in general I was confident I could ride on a street. 10 miles and a few short hills later, I am REALLY looking forward to longer road rides.

A few questions.

I find that the material on the neck rest isn't very comfortable. Is this something that will get more comfortable over time (break-in period), or should I add something to it? If the latter, what have folks found that works well?

I will probably tweak the handlebar angle a bit, but the thing I'm most curious about is the location of the brifters. I expect that the majority of the time is spent on the “drops” (it was for me during the first ride). If that's the case, my not put the brifters there? Am I missing something?

Finally, SRAM double-tap. This was my the first time using it. I can see the benefit from using a single shifter, but if I'm grasping for an easier gear does it make sense to move the shifter two clicks instead of one?

A final finally – A word of thanks to the Cruzbike team. I was pleasantly surprised to find the level of pre-assembly that went into the 6th gen S40 before taking it apart for boxing. The derailleur and brakes were spot on – no adjustments necessary! I also appreciate having a spare derailleur hanger in the parts bag. THANK YOU!

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Enjoy you new S40. How did you attach your water bottle cage to your handlebar?
 

Tuloose

Guru
Enjoy you new S40. How did you attach your water bottle cage to your handlebar?
I have water bottles mounted on the booms of my S40 and my V20C. I bought Zefal water bottle holders with Velcro straps. They work well except the bottle cage itself does not grip the bottle tightly. Hit a big bump and the bottle lands in your lap.
I kept the Velcro mount and changed out the cages for others I had lying around.
Having the bottle so easily within reach just makes sense. It's difficult to get a bottle out of the back of the seat mount.
 

Doccus

Member
Less than 60 miles/2 weeks on my S40 so take all with a grain of salt. My longest road ride was 30 miles. Not relaxed the entire time but there were some times I did not have to concentrate on the bike. I prefer original headrest. Water bottles in race cage but haven’t mastered getting out and returning on the rolI. I am using sling bag for phone and wallet but think I will try front mounted “Fanny pack” as Larry Oslund recommended.
As others have said, it is similar to learning to fly…..important to be smooth and light on the controls. I have a tendency to over correct and get into a back and forth swerving path. I am also getting used to road noise behind me being my own back tire. I am working on best mirror selection and placement.
The SRAM double click shifter took a little getting used to but seems to work fine. I am able to climb steeper hills (or get a little farther up) each ride.
After more comfortable, I think I will at least try clip-ins.
Thank you to everyone on forums for their tips/hints/advice/warnings.
 

jrs665

Member
Clipless pedals made a huge difference for me, my control of the bike got alot better as soon as i started using them. Set the stension such that it is easy to unclip so can get your foot out fast if needed; they can be looser than a daimond frame as you won't stand on pedals.

One thing you might not know is that if you push the gear change tab for 3 clicks, will change down 2 gears.

For climbing hills , sit upright and pull on the handlebars as you push for more power and better balance.

The mirror that comes with the bike is wide angle and too small, the one you can order from Cruzbike is good though.
 

Laidbackladdie

New Member
Every day is a school day - I never realised there was a couple of threaded bolt holes for a bottle cage on the slider. I use a Camelbak strapped to the headrest frame and seat and have a light breakeasy lanyard around my neck and attached to the drink tube. It works perfectly and I always know where it is and just drop it when I’ve had a drink - probably done around 2,000 miles on recumbents with that setup!.

As regards looks and comments from other people and cyclists, they have always been positive and a great conversation opener. I did a 100mile / 170km organised ride in Kerry in the Rep.of Ireland last month and got a motorcycle escort over the finish line from two Marshalls - AWESOME
 

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Boreen bimbler

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Every day is a school day - I never realised there was a couple of threaded bolt holes for a bottle cage on the slider. I use a Camelbak strapped to the headrest frame and seat and have a light breakeasy lanyard around my neck and attached to the drink tube. It works perfectly and I always know where it is and just drop it when I’ve had a drink - probably done around 2,000 miles on recumbents with that setup!.

As regards looks and comments from other people and cyclists, they have always been positive and a great conversation opener. I did a 100mile / 170km organised ride in Kerry in the Rep.of Ireland last month and got a motorcycle escort over the finish line from two Marshalls - AWESOME
Thats a lovely ride around the ring of Kerry. Some long hills but easy enough gradients. There is a road goes straight through the middle that is amazing but has a couple of steep passes. And the black valley/gap of dunloe too. I live down on the Mizen peninsula.
As for cruzbike comments I find you get more good comments from kids than adults.
 
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