My Very First Recumbent is a V20

Frito Bandito

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Not if it makes your elbows stick out.
I didn't set up a mirror in front to see if less of my arms is visible from the front than with the bars a little further, but with the flared bars I rotated the brifters inboards a little to get my forearms out of the wind. This should decrease the frontal area but who knows since my arms were pretty straight. The end result is going to be more comfort focused instead of Wind Tunnel Optimized for pure speed.
 
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Frito Bandito

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Just ordered SRAMs AXS multiclicks so when they arrive I can swap the 390mm flared Nitto bars with the SRAM Force brifters for a Deda Tribar with Campagnolo Super Record carbon fiber brake levers. The new system should be more aero and lighter. In a mock up this afternoon I found that the Tribar gets my forearms behind my thighs without my fists exposed when I am gripping the flat section of the bars near the stem. Also, my thighs won't brush my fingertips. I have to tilt the bars up ever so slightly so it doesn't strain my wrists, but overall the frontal area is smaller than the current setup.
 

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Don1

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Not hydraulic! After a dig around there doesn't seem to be hydraulic only tt brakes. Shimano make a di2 tt brakes but that's top dollar. We're ahead of the curve as usual
 

Frito Bandito

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At 1st, mechanical disc brakes had me rolling my eyes a bit but I am coming around. I still have a bit of life left in my current wheels that keeps me from buying new wheels. Maybe when supply chains get more efficient but I don't think I'll be going hydraulic just yet.
 

Frito Bandito

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I know that not many of you run a hydration backpack worn backwards on your chest such as the Deuter Road One with a 2.5L Osprey Hydration bladder I put up earlier, but I think I just found an even better backpack for runners. It is the 6L Athform backpack that is about half of the weight of the Deuter Road One. Not only that but since the padding is thinner the cold hydration will keep you cooler, It is a tad shorter so it won't touch my neck when I'm lying on the bike and it won't jab me in the nether regions when I sit up, and finally, the material and shape is smoother so I think it is going to be an even better solution. I also think the 3L Osprey bladder will fit in it perfectly, so that is next up on my shopping list. There are 2 of them, this is the lighter one. The heavier one seems to be for trail running so it has thicker material and a waist belt.

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With that said, I believe I also found a better solution for the space behind my head for speed. Lighter and more compact it is the Deuter Bike Bag 1.2 Bottle. It is a 1.2L seatbag that I think will fit on the headrest bars in a jiffy. I'll get pics of it once I get it and install it.
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Frito Bandito

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Hmmm. Come summer.... The chest backpack might be something to use. I don't really like stuff attached to me but the cooling ice pack has my curiosity.
Camelback makes a 2L full system for about $70US that I saw in the bike shop the other day, but since the backpacks have two large foam strips running down the side for comfort it kind of keeps the contact area to a minimum. I think Deuter calls them Air Strips. Once they got wet then the cold transferred decently, but this Athform bag doesn't have those foam strips on the inside, and there is no foam padding between the hydration bag and the thin mesh so I can imagine that it is going to have significantly more cooling affect. I was a bit concerned about the feeling of being compressed by the bag too, and when leaning up at stop lights it does contact my cycling computer but neither is really that prohibitive. I'll give it a test run today and try to get some pics as well.
 

Frito Bandito

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I've been thinking of getting a new drive wheel for my V20, and recently came across 3 options locally. Currently I have a rim brake 50mm Campagnolo Bullet on the front and an 80mm Bullet on the rear with Monokote but want something not only fast, but blingy and practical. I know it is a tall order but what do you guys think?

#1 A pair of Xentis Mark I, comes with an 11-speed cassette both with less than 100km on them. $1500. Tubular, so while they can be very comfortable at a lower pressure finding tubulars isnt so easy. About 1600g.
Pros
(1) Gorgeous
(2) Fast
(3) Flat on the front means keeping it upright is a higher possibility.
(4) Standard brake shoes are fine.
(5) Bling

Cons
(1) Tubular = Carrying a whole tire and glue
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#2 A rear Xentis Mark 1. Comes with a Vittoria Corsa tire. Less than 100km also. $950.
Same pros and cons, but I would have to carry 1 tubular tire as well as having tubeless in the rear. Here is the hub and the brake track.
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#3 A pair of HED 80mm clinchers with aluminum brake tracks with less than 50km on them. $600.
Pros
(1) Cheap
(2) Fast
(3) Matching set

Cons
(1) Big white labels
(2) No bling
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Are the HEDs tubeless ready?

Where I live, I would never go tubular. But I think where you normally ride is pretty friendly to tyres, so I might consider it. I would be replacing a tubular at least once a month where I ride.

Your budget is stretching up to some new chinese wheels (Yoeleo or similar), and then you can choose you have more flexibility in tyre/hub etc. You get warranty and wheels are brand new so no risk of previous owner hidden "features".
 

Frito Bandito

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I am not sure if the HEDs are tubeless ready as it isn't written in the ad and I am not sure what year those were produced to search elsewhere for specs. Tubeless would make the decision easier, but worst case scenario is I run them with sealant filled tubes. I'd get all the protection of tubeless, but a tiny bit of RR and weight penalty. At $600 for the HEDs I could eventually upgrade to Chris King hubs and maybe remove the stickers :D
 

Don1

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Hmmmmm. You can run clinches as tubeless you know... The quad spoke are lit bling. How much are a set of tubs? U can buy double sided tape for tubs now.... With your riding conditions I'd nearly lean 4spokes... Huh?
 

Frito Bandito

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Hmmmmm. You can run clinches as tubeless you know... The quad spoke are lit bling. How much are a set of tubs? U can buy double sided tape for tubs now.... With your riding conditions I'd nearly lean 4spokes... Huh?
As much as my head runs on about all things bike related, I didnt think of running clinchers as tubulars Don. Thanks for that. I've seen tubulars in my LBS here, but never really paid attention to them since it seemed that those are on the way out being replaced by tubeless. I will have to check prices next time. What I gains I might get in aerodynamic drag on the rims I might lose in getting a dependable tire that last long enough and doesn't get too many punctures. I don't know much about Xentis wheel's serviceability though, including the availability of bearings.
 

Don1

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Clinchers as tubeless u mean.... I ran my fulcrum s for ages as tubeless with non tubeless tyres(Michelin power) lol ... Are the xentis wheels ball n cone bearings? Use Shimano Parts? If they're cassette bearings they will have the part number on the bearing.....
 
Clinchers as tubeless u mean.... I ran my fulcrum s for ages as tubeless with non tubeless tyres(Michelin power) lol ... Are the xentis wheels ball n cone bearings? Use Shimano Parts? If they're cassette bearings they will have the part number on the bearing.....
I ran Tubs i.e. tubular and wouldn’t do it again
 

Beano

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There is a reason by and large why only pros run tubs, and that is because they are a PITA and they don't have to work with them gluing and fitting them. The only advantage I can think (and why the pros run them) is safety, difficult for a glued punctured tyre to come off the rim, still ride them flat until you come to a stop.
 

Frito Bandito

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Clinchers as tubeless u mean.... I ran my fulcrum s for ages as tubeless with non tubeless tyres(Michelin power) lol ... Are the xentis wheels ball n cone bearings? Use Shimano Parts? If they're cassette bearings they will have the part number on the bearing.....
Don, I wrote a reply, and hit enter, but my Wifi was wonky and it never posted. I am not sure offhand what bearings Xentis uses but if they are the cassette style then it is quite simple to change them. I've changed the ball and cone bearings before on other wheels fairly easily but it took a bit of time since it was my first time. They are still rolling wonderfully after 3 years of everyday use and never touching them though. I am not sure about buying the Xentis or the HEDs from that site now though as there is no return policy if the seller isn't honest about the condition. If I can inspect them in person then I7d pay cash, but that doesn't seem possible.
 
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