MI Cruzbike retreat 2020 - August 6-9, 2020 Benton Harbor Michigan

MI Cruzbike 2020 - vote for days that DO work for you - If your name is not in post 1, PM benphyr

  • July 4 (Thursday to Sunday surrounding Saturday July 4)

    Votes: 2 25.0%
  • July 11

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • July 18

    Votes: 2 25.0%
  • July 25

    Votes: 5 62.5%
  • Aug 1

    Votes: 3 37.5%
  • Aug 8

    Votes: 3 37.5%
  • Aug 15

    Votes: 5 62.5%
  • Aug 22

    Votes: 4 50.0%
  • Aug 29

    Votes: 4 50.0%
  • Sep 5

    Votes: 4 50.0%

  • Total voters
    8
  • Poll closed .

3bs

whereabouts unknown
if you want it trust me i can get it for you and make a bike ride to get there. wineries, breweries, distilleries, farms, orchards, smaller lakes, fishing, shooting, hills flats, whatever, @velocio you lived in this state you know how it is. Because we are where Chicago people have their vacation homes, we also have a lot of good restaurants.

riding along the lake itself is not always the best way to see the lake where we are here, but, if we want to head just a little further south there are some great streaches of cottages and streets right on the water. for example on either side of michigan city, we could ride the Indiana dunes shoreline and then up lakeshore through longbeach and then to new buffalo.

if you guys come back then we can do my ferry loop sometime. muskegon across to milwaukee on the ferry, then ride up to manatowoc, and take the ferry back to ludington, and then ride south back to muskegon. that is a full measure of the lake on both sides and two crossings.

its whatever you guys want to do. we could even ride from public beach to public beach if you wanted.

plenty of churches. i am catholic, and there is a nice small church in downtown st joe, but i asked and God said he was just glad to hear you all were coming to the area, so we don't actually have to go to a service.

for the most part kal haven is okay to do on normal tires. most of it is pretty hard packed two track with some grass in the middle near south haven, so as long as it not muddy, 28's are fine. as you get closer to Kalamazoo it starts to be paved and better kept. every now and then you will hit little sand patches, so you cant be stupid. if its been raining a lot, we can pick an alternate route.

i have a v20 and a t50.

has anyone started bombarding the CB home office to get them to come along?
 

velocio

Austrian roadside steckerlfisch (fish on a stick)
What Cruzbikes has everyone got, to show the range of Cruzbikes to the DF riders!
I have a Silvio S30 with dual suspension!
"Road+" S40 running 650B wheels.

Karl-Haven Trail, from KAO on Saturday, with food + drinks at South Haven!
What is the Min. tyre width recommended?
Not very recent experience, but years ago I rode the Kal-Haven Trail on a tandem with tires marked 700x28, though I suspect back then the 28's were more like 26mm wide. Wider would have been better, but we didn't have an real issues and enjoyed the trail despite our skinny tires.

-Jack
 

woodguy

Well-Known Member
I will be driving over from Wisconsin Thursday morning, so an afternoon ride works good for me. I liked all the suggestions @3bs had for rides, so anyone that has a specific preference is fine with me. I’ll be leaving on Sunday early PM, so a morning ride is all I could do then.

I’m riding my Q45 with the standard 26 x 1.75 size tires, but I did upgrade to Schwalbe Marathons from the stock tire.

I did talk up the Michigan retreat at Bike Sebring & specifically encouraged @Lucia. She sounded interested, but made no commitments.
 

woodguy

Well-Known Member
I enjoy historic plaques, so would plan to be stopping for them, but not everyone has to IMO. That might reduce some time at the liquid refreshment breaks for those of us who stop, but I'm okay with the trade off.
 

benphyr

Guru-me-not
Will we time to stop and read the historic plaques????
OR will we need to be in Turbo mode between plaques?
Why not both:
-stop to read, spool up the turbo
-stop to read, stop to beverage
Although you could stop to pick up beverage and the imbibe while stopped to read, though that may lengthen the stop and decrease the effectiveness of the turbo.
 

benphyr

Guru-me-not
Those from WI say “badge’s, badgers, WE’ve got the stinkin’ badge’s!”
 
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3bs

whereabouts unknown
do we have a head count yet of for sures, maybes, and nope? tons of time, but i want to keep this on the front burner.

also, so we have any dietary issues that i should consider if i try and set up a cook out or something?
 

3bs

whereabouts unknown
unless there are some more interesting geopolitical moves, i think by august this stuff will be mostly done, except for the economic lag.
the latest ban is actually the Schengen Area, not actually Europe or EU. i was surprised the US waited that long to impose the restrictions. lots of smaller countries and a lot of corporations shut down border travel a couple weeks before. last night Governor Whitmer issued an executive order to close all public and nonpublic schools in Michigan until April 6, 2020, effective Monday. so my kids will be home starting next week. that is not as big of a whack on education as it sounds, becuase we have 5 snow days that we have not used this year and that period includes spring break.

at the university level it is more interesting. Notre Dame and univ of Michigan and most of the other universities has also sent the kids home or told them not to come back after spring break thru the end of the school year. the play offs and tournaments and championships have all been suspended or stopped. but i am still taking my girls to their spring soccer practices. i am super curious what they are going to do about the senior pga championship which is also held here this year. https://www.srpgachampionship.com/ the age demographic is not a good one for this virus.

did i remind riders that we have an incredible concentration of some of the best golf courses in this area? bring your clubs and add a day to golf!

Most of the big employers around here have also shifted the workforce to remote. this is all good to stop the bug, but it and the little oil war between the saudis and russia may well tip the american economy into a recession. way too much reliance on the Chinese supply chain. this will be very evident in the next few months both for mfg and pharma.

as far as locally, Currently the closest diagnosed c-19 is in south bend. i say diagnosed because i think that there are probably a lot of exposed people who were asymptomatic or had mild symptoms that resolved that we may never know of. its kind of a two sided issue when we don't have accurate numbers on diagnosis. on the one had we think that it has not spread as far or as fast as it may have, but on the other hand fewer diagnosed cases skews the mortality rate. we saw that with H1N1. i think you really need to go thru 2-3 seasons to get enough data to quantify.

we live in interesting times.
 
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