Mathew Fy
GRU
I carry extra cleat screws in my bag. Also, extra derailleur hanger, boom clamp bolt, tape, tire repair stuff. Of course, if I need to use any of these, that time trial effort won’t be recorded.
Cruzbike Time Trial Challenge 2020
- Thread starter LarryOz
- Start date
Bill Wightman
Well-Known Member
Also be careful with homemade hardware for which there is no stress, fatigue, or corrosion cracking analysis. That is quite the offset, does that really help? The hardware vendors do all this analysis and testing to protect the brand and prevent being sued. I had a beautiful Di2 derailleur wrap around the cassette once after over 15000 miles of flawless operation all because of a fatigue crack in the hanger likely from my sweat adding to the crack growth. So even carefully vetted hardware can go wrong.
Bill Wightman
Well-Known Member
Larry, would you mind if I try your shifted cleat idea? I have some 4mm carbon fiber laminate board that should work just fine. I can bond some extra stiffeners where the three holes and all the bending stress is located in the middle.Glad you are OK Ken, those adapters look so familiar!
LarryOz
Cruzeum Curator & Sigma Wrangler
It did help me with hot foot when riding long rides.
I have not patented the process - feel free to copy- I am actually not using mine now because I may need to "reach" a little farther on a frame that requires such.
CruzLike
Guru
Matt is my new friend to ride with. You are prepared.
Mathew Fy
GRU
Not as much as this guy:
https://forum.cruzbike.com/threads/how-good-are-patches.12877/page-2#post-154170
Veinbuster
Member
I had near perfect conditions for week 10 this morning. The weather channel said only a 2 km/hr wind so I rushed out to take advantage of the still air.
The construction I ran into last week was finished and they left behind a brand new smooth surface. I was pretty sure that should give me 10 seconds over the bumpy patchwork it was from week 1-8.
A bit of traffic at a left turn about 13 km, but otherwise clear sailing for an 18 second gain.
The construction I ran into last week was finished and they left behind a brand new smooth surface. I was pretty sure that should give me 10 seconds over the bumpy patchwork it was from week 1-8.
A bit of traffic at a left turn about 13 km, but otherwise clear sailing for an 18 second gain.
benphyr
Guru-me-not
@trplay Do you keep all those tools handy during the WTRL TTT? I could have used some tools last week. A tune up to the engine would have been good!Not as much as this guy:
https://forum.cruzbike.com/threads/how-good-are-patches.12877/page-2#post-154170
Having had a loose crank arm myself, that's regular check item. The one I need to do more regularly is disc brake pad wear.
I have had a pedal seize on me and unscrew itself from the crank, luckily in my gym on the turbo, though it did take a few seconds to register why my left foot was floating around on its own.
I have had a pedal seize on me and unscrew itself from the crank, luckily in my gym on the turbo, though it did take a few seconds to register why my left foot was floating around on its own.
RojoRacing
Donut Powered Wise-guy
I wonder who else is ending up with their efforts grouping together within a very tight window. I've been plateaued within the same dozen seconds and couple watts for the last month or so. I'd be ecstatic if it wasn't for that I'm not going to consistent but it's just a limit I've hit
Keep it up everyone, we are approaching the halfway point.
Keep it up everyone, we are approaching the halfway point.
Bill Wightman
Well-Known Member
My results were progressing quite well until the temperature started rising (that is my excuse anyway). The rides have gone from temps of 68 to 77 degF and I have gotten slower. This week the lowest temps are about 82 degF so I will try to ride with crushed ice in a bag on my chest to see if it helps.
RojoRacing
Donut Powered Wise-guy
It will, the Parkers were shoveling ice down my jersey during the Texas 500 race when it was over well over 90. It hurts for the first 2-3 minutes but then it just feels good for the next 10-15. I wouldn't bother with the bag though.
LarryOz
Cruzeum Curator & Sigma Wrangler
Wow - I wish it would cool down to that here on Hilton Head Island. 5am in my garage is 84 degrees and 80% humidity!
Lief
Guru Schmuru
Jason, I’m not anywhere near peak shape and I’ve had four attempts with a grand total of 15 sec difference between them (the last one was 13 sec faster). So, yeah - tight grouping. I’m hoping to see some more 5-10-15 second improvements in the next few weeks. Might throw on a rear wheel disc cover if I get desperate.I wonder who else is ending up with their efforts grouping together within a very tight window. I've been plateaued within the same dozen seconds and couple watts for the last month or so. I'd be ecstatic if it wasn't for that I'm not going to consistent but it's just a limit I've hit
Keep it up everyone, we are approaching the halfway point.
My dad and I did some rollout/roll down tests after last weeks ride. No measurements or anything - just comparison between platforms and the diff between me on a Vendetta 2.0 and him on V20 was inconsequential; one wheel length here, half a bike length there. Sometimes me in front, sometimes him. We did 4 runs back to back and saw more variation between each run than we did between platforms or “aero” adjustments.
It was fun at least talking to the neighbors outside wondering WTH we were doing?
LarryOz
Cruzeum Curator & Sigma Wrangler
Great encouragement to everyone Jason - Thanks for that!I wonder who else is ending up with their efforts grouping together within a very tight window. I've been plateaued within the same dozen seconds and couple watts for the last month or so. I'd be ecstatic if it wasn't for that I'm not going to consistent but it's just a limit I've hit
Keep it up everyone, we are approaching the halfway point.
You and a few more select people (Chris, Marco come to mind) where already at pretty peak form!
Obviously it is harder to make much progress in power if you are at the top of your game. If you are not riding virtually, then then only obvious way to try some aero adjustments to body or bike. Me - I had been doing that crazy super endurance from of 200+ miles daily for months. But my top end power sucked bad because of it. I had trouble hitting 200 watts for any significant period. I also lost down to 137 pounds and obviously lost some muscle capacity because of that too (Good for hills, but not so good for flat TT's where weight does not play into it as much) No I need to build back just muscle in my legs). So once I stopped that silliness and starting doing some very hard high intensity intervals my power is slowly inching up and my ability to suffer more and more has gone up too.
I know I am preaching to the choir with you Jason, but some may not know this fact:
You can probably push yourself harder than you think. It really depends on your ability to suffer and your willingness to suffer. Obviously there is a limit, but you don't know until you try. A few years ago I was training all years for the 1-hr TT. It was crazy. I always felt like I could not go on any longer at my power level (even after 5 mins), but learned to just keep pushing it and pushing it. It is amazing what you can endure. You brain tells you to stop because it does not want to suffer - you just keep going and will be amazed at how much longer you can go on.
Of course to get more powerful you must ride at a level above your normal TT power as training. Eventually you will be able to go harder and harder. But at some point everyone will also reach a plateau. For me since I was doing so much endurance riding, I had to learn how to suffer all over again I think. My first TT I only avg 154bpm, with a max of 165 and I just could not do any more - I was wasted. Now in my 10th week I averaged 168 with my max being 176. My time has only come down 2 mins in 10 weeks, so not getting any massive increases like some, but it is slow and steady. I now usually do extremely high intensity workouts on Mon & Wed with some slow squats during the day, Race the Zwift TTT on Thur night and then do my TT on Sat usually. Sometime I even do more than 1 of them on Sat with rest periods in between to train myself to suffer more. Ok, back to work!
ccooper
Active Member
I've been at the same FTP for about 5 months. I'll admit, it's kind of frustrating. I was hoping that the training schedule I had was going to be enough to get me up to 4.0 w/kg, but it looks like it won't. I think after this TT series is over I'll need to switch into an interval program, since I'm probably not getting enough training above FTP.
RojoRacing
Donut Powered Wise-guy
I always assume I’m just mentally weak and if I could just try a little harder I could make a gain. Problem is when you’ve had my racing experience for as long as me it starts to get harder and harder to wonder if you’re still mentally weak. I’ve been riding by feel and I just happen to look at my ride via Xert and it showed a breakthrough, which surprised me. Turns out my MPA was steadily dropping the whole TT until I broke through it for 10 or so seconds and then you can see where I started falling apart 30 seconds later. The damn Xert program is learning my limits faster than I am
I do have an interesting idea to possibly trick my mind for next week, I’ll let everyone know what it is if it works.
I do have an interesting idea to possibly trick my mind for next week, I’ll let everyone know what it is if it works.
LarryOz
Cruzeum Curator & Sigma Wrangler
Chris, work in some intervals right into your TT. (I did that last week and I only ended up 1 sec under my PB). Use your garmin or some other head device to collect and average your power when you are on the Lollipop course. Do over and unders (ever minute) or something similar the entire TT and see what you come up with. That will give you some good time above your FTP to broaden your horizons.
LarryOz
Cruzeum Curator & Sigma Wrangler
Chris, another idea I had that would be easier is to create a workout in Zwift for the over and unders: for you, something like repeat 15x (300W for 1 min, 350@ for 1 min). Run it in ERG so you trainer will make you meet the wattage, plus you won't go over it by much. Start the workout just before you pass the start of the Lollipop segment start. That would give you 15 min of time above you FTP.
LarryOz
Cruzeum Curator & Sigma Wrangler
I email everyone a copy of this , but here are the Week 9 Results for thread
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Hi Everyone - 9 weeks done!
Summer is just zooming by - School is planned to start in 5 weeks in my area - dependent on the virus of course - Might be home learning again to start!
And another great week by everyone with some great efforts!
This week we had a total of 44 riders - down 9 from last week - but it is summer, and people go on vacation or take rest weeks.
We welcome 1 new rider this week (from Alvin's Washington TT site: - Jeffrey Baxter)
Some Stats:
Most improved over PB:
Congrats to Linda Bowen who beat her previous PB by 118 seconds this week! Way to go Linda!
Points Podium: (no change in placement this week - just points)
1st - Andrew Thompson : 319.5
2nd Peter Ruttan - 311.5
3rd - Jim Parker: 297.0
..Honorable mention (4th):Gary Stegal at 286 points (only 11 points off 3rd place!)
Here are the winners and points leaders for each week
Other interesting data:
There were 22 new PB's this week - down 8 from last week , but our total riders were also down by a similar amount
28 riders have ridden all 9 weeks - down 4 from last week
Still have 3 riders that have PB's each of the 9 weeks - Larry, Ken and Peter. Pressure is on to keep it up!
Jim Parker asked me to add max speed to the data, so that has been done - I realize many of you have relatively flat TT routes (This is not required, but keeps them a little safer), so this data point may not be of interest to you, but that is OK - I also also added max HR just since it was there and easy to get at. I suspect our max HR champ Daryl will probably almost have this mark too. This week it was 195 - Come on Daryl - get to that 200 mark - I used to, but at 60 I think it is out of my reach now. (I feel good when I get into the 180's these days! haha)
Special mentions:
My good friend Marco Ruga (in Italy) finally broke the 30mph speed barrier for his TT. What makes this even more amazing is that he switched his course to a local 1/4 track (like you remember from high school). I used to do a lot of testing on a similar track. Let me tell you - it is a hair raising experience to go around a track like that at an average speed of 30+ mph, especially having to make a relatively sharp turn at each end. That is 48 high speed turns for a 12 mile TT. Though in a little wind in for good measure and you need to stay extremely focused every second of your ride. Congrats Marco!
Google docs sheet for those of you who want to slice and dice the data in your spare time
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eC5Ihm9GswLii7KQvubdkLvCeZDM2iWoz0avrx22C1Q/edit?usp=sharing
Looking forward to everyone's results for week #10.
Please remember to "name" your ride for me in case I have to search for it in your Strava feed - helps me out a lot!
Ride Hard and Stay Safe and thanks for participating - it is great fun for me to watch and enjoy everyone's journey in the and progress!
Larry Oslund
p.s. As always - this is a boatload of data to enter and collate - so there is probably an error somewhere - if you see one, let me know so I can correct it - Thanks
......................................
Hi Everyone - 9 weeks done!
Summer is just zooming by - School is planned to start in 5 weeks in my area - dependent on the virus of course - Might be home learning again to start!
And another great week by everyone with some great efforts!
This week we had a total of 44 riders - down 9 from last week - but it is summer, and people go on vacation or take rest weeks.
We welcome 1 new rider this week (from Alvin's Washington TT site: - Jeffrey Baxter)
Some Stats:
Most improved over PB:
Congrats to Linda Bowen who beat her previous PB by 118 seconds this week! Way to go Linda!
Points Podium: (no change in placement this week - just points)
1st - Andrew Thompson : 319.5
2nd Peter Ruttan - 311.5
3rd - Jim Parker: 297.0
..Honorable mention (4th):Gary Stegal at 286 points (only 11 points off 3rd place!)
Here are the winners and points leaders for each week
Other interesting data:
There were 22 new PB's this week - down 8 from last week , but our total riders were also down by a similar amount
28 riders have ridden all 9 weeks - down 4 from last week
Still have 3 riders that have PB's each of the 9 weeks - Larry, Ken and Peter. Pressure is on to keep it up!
Jim Parker asked me to add max speed to the data, so that has been done - I realize many of you have relatively flat TT routes (This is not required, but keeps them a little safer), so this data point may not be of interest to you, but that is OK - I also also added max HR just since it was there and easy to get at. I suspect our max HR champ Daryl will probably almost have this mark too. This week it was 195 - Come on Daryl - get to that 200 mark - I used to, but at 60 I think it is out of my reach now. (I feel good when I get into the 180's these days! haha)
Special mentions:
My good friend Marco Ruga (in Italy) finally broke the 30mph speed barrier for his TT. What makes this even more amazing is that he switched his course to a local 1/4 track (like you remember from high school). I used to do a lot of testing on a similar track. Let me tell you - it is a hair raising experience to go around a track like that at an average speed of 30+ mph, especially having to make a relatively sharp turn at each end. That is 48 high speed turns for a 12 mile TT. Though in a little wind in for good measure and you need to stay extremely focused every second of your ride. Congrats Marco!
Google docs sheet for those of you who want to slice and dice the data in your spare time
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eC5Ihm9GswLii7KQvubdkLvCeZDM2iWoz0avrx22C1Q/edit?usp=sharing
Looking forward to everyone's results for week #10.
Please remember to "name" your ride for me in case I have to search for it in your Strava feed - helps me out a lot!
Ride Hard and Stay Safe and thanks for participating - it is great fun for me to watch and enjoy everyone's journey in the and progress!
Larry Oslund
p.s. As always - this is a boatload of data to enter and collate - so there is probably an error somewhere - if you see one, let me know so I can correct it - Thanks
